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I flat out do not watch ads. If a platform has ads, I do not watch it full stop. I pay YouTube for no ads. If I lost that option, I would not watch YouTube. Sam
by rendall 3y ago
I flat out do not watch ads. If a platform has ads, I do not watch it full stop. I pay YouTube for no ads. If I lost that option, I would not watch YouTube. Same with all of the other streaming services. Netflix pushed it last year with preview rolls. It was barely acceptable/tolerable. But I will eagerly jettison any service that makes me pay for ads.
Heck, I even look askance at people who willingly pay money to unironically wear logos. Why do you do that? You, yes, you reading this. Why do you buy Nike clothing or Adidas track suits or Louis Vuitton anything?? Explain yourself.
- isoprophlex 3y agoIt is really not so repulsive to see the poor asking for money as to see the rich asking for more money. And advertisement is the rich asking for more money.
- lisper 3y ago-- G.K. Chesterton
- isoprophlex 3y agoThanks. I forgot the exact quote, found it searching the internet on some shady quote aggregator site, but no attribution...
- parineum 3y agoPresumably, the poor here asking for money is beggars literally just asking for money while advertisements are telling you about things you could get with money. It's a nice quip but it doesn't represent reality at all.
- aendruk 3y agoThis sounds backwards to me. The way I experience it, the reality of advertisements is that they are attempts at manipulating me, and the framing as mere news about nice things is part of the trick.
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- throw7 3y agoYou brought up my pet peeve... it's really difficult for me to shop for sports/outdoorwear. I absolutely can't stand being a walking billboard. The worst part is I'm paying to be one. grrrr.
- dpkirchner 3y agoI try to find clothing that has no logos or logos that are easily removed (Eddie Bauer, for example). It's a pain, though.
- Mindwipe 3y agoThe article pretty clearly states that there's an ad free tier for an extra $3 a month.
- esistgut 3y agoI buy Nike running shoes because they are cheap, durable and comfortable, I don't actually use the to run. The other obvious answer to this question is "because they are status symbols", for some people anyway.
- rendall 3y agoShoes, sure, because they do make great running shoes, and I suppose - forgive me - if one doesn't care about making a good visual impression, they are quite comfortable for everyday wear. I'm more confused by the visors and shirts and such. Any ostensible status garnered by being an ad is immediately overbalanced by the questionable taste and decisions of its wearer.
- HeyLaughingBoy 3y agoYou seem to be going to great lengths to avoid confronting the fact that most people simply don't care about logos, or, if they do, are doing it to fit in with whatever crowd they're a part of.
- MisterTea 3y agoI think the OP was more focused on basic clothing items and accessories like tee shirts with logos. I would give their running shoes a pass as my downshifters are amazing - they make me want to run - so quite comfortable and functional. A Nike branded shirt or pants however are just decorated cloth.
- m_eiman 3y agoAgreed. I'm somewhat furious at Apple for having ads for their other shows before showing me what I've selected to watch on Apple TV+. Is there any way to disable that?
- jghn 3y agoI actually don’t mind this - there skippable, not disruptive to the show itself, and sometimes I learn about a new to me show I want to watch.
- tpmx 3y agoOn tvOS: Settings -> Accessibility -> Vision -> Motion -> Auto-Play Video Previews -> Off It actually seems to work. Amazingly well hidden, I must say. Bravo.
- omega3 3y ago-> Accessibility -> Vision -> Motion -> Agreed, no other reason other than to make it harder to find, shameful.
- garblegarble 3y agoI wonder are we thinking about the same thing - I assumed the original poster was referring to the pre-roll trailers that play ahead of an episode of a TV show or film. I tried this setting but unfortunately it doesn't seem to remove those... does it do that for you?
- tpmx 3y agoI was thinking about those pre-roll trailers, yes. It seemed to remove them for me, but perhaps it was a random false "negative".
- bradknowles 3y agoAwesome! Thank you! I don't suppose that there's a way to do something comparable for Netflix auto-previews? I'm about to give up on them permanently because of that....
- mumblemumble 3y agoIt's signaling. Wearing prominent logos sends yourself and others a message that you have the disposable income to pay twice as much for a version of the thing that has a special picture on it.
- rendall 3y agoYes, agreed. It still does not explain the practice in a way that makes sense to me. There are so many and much better ways to signal disposable wealth. To me it immediately signals "more money than sense".
- distcs 3y agoHonest question. Where you buy your clothes from? As much as I would like to buy clothes without logos, they are not easy to find where I live.
- rendall 3y agoI live in Finland. My favorite place to get sportswear and just daily wear is H&M. No logos. My favorite design house is Makia. Really amazing stuff. https://makia.com/ https://makia.com/ but if it has a big-assed Makia logo I don't buy it. When I lived in New York there were so many options it was hard to choose, but I'd check out used clothing boutiques for fun things.
- FrankoDelMar 3y agoYou may be interested -- Karhu is from Finland and makes minimally branded sneakers
- rendall 3y agoThanks for the tip!
- dpkirchner 3y agoFWIW, in the US, H&M is known for fast-fashion, garbage-tier clothing. I've heard the brand is better outside the US, though.
- natpalmer1776 3y agoFor certain items it is part of the cost for the quality of good being procured at a given price point. I’m sure there are no-label options of equal quality and comfort, but the process of finding those options is a much greater (time) cost than the item itself is worth to me. In a different context, if an artisan knows they are the best (by a large margin) and put their mark on every item produced, few seeking the artisan for their quality would stop using that artisan due to the mark as the alternative would be inferior goods. Same thing but much bigger scale, with a dash of marketing and broken trust (brand acquisitions followed by bad products) thrown in.
- rendall 3y agoI would understand if the choice were good quality with logo versus questionable crapshoot with no logo. That's not usually the option, though. Perhaps you can't just look at clothing and see whether it is quality or not? Look at the stitching and materials, for instance? I happily pay more for good quality, no-logo than, frankly, logo with middling quality.
- jdbartee 3y agoGood luck checking out the stitching on Amazon. Even if you can see it in a picture, the item in the picture might not be the one you’re getting. And good luck finding “no brand” options in a Brick and Mortar store.
- folkrav 3y agoI wear some brands, but I buy them at the discount/clearance store, I'm not directly looking at buying specific brands, most of the time. However, in the case of some brands (e.g. Vans in my case) I just... genuinely enjoy their stuff. Is it that weird to have preferences?
- transcriptase 3y agoFind me an unbranded pair of basketball shorts that will last 10 years, have consistent sizing, and cost less than $20 at an outlet and I’ll gladly buy them. I could gamble on “YAWHOHOMELIFE Men's Running Workout Shorts Training Gym Athletic Joggers Sweat Short Pants Quick Dry Breathable with Zip Pockets”, or pay like $5 more for a little white embroidered check mark and the aforementioned benefits without needing to trial a bunch of junk from companies that won’t exist in a year.
- rendall 3y agoThis is a false dichotomy. Your choice is to pay extra for a logo, or pay less for equivalent quality but no logo. You choose logo. Why?
- dmd 3y agoBecause, as he said, it's NOT necessarily equivalent quality. Yes, often it is, but also quite often it's utter crap that falls apart. For these particular type of products - and I'm not claiming this is true in all product categories! - that logo does in fact mean it is a quality, well tested product.
- trip-zip 3y agoIs your statement not a false dichotomy? I like 1 particular brand of backpack with a slightly prominent logo on it. I do not believe there is an equivalent quality made by a brand without the logo I buy.
- idopmstuff 3y agoEven if this were the case (it's not), there's still a time cost - I have to find the brand without the logo that's the same quality. I buy athletic shorts maybe once every 2-3 years almost always on Black Friday. I know Nike shorts will be high quality, and I know they'll fit. Wading through the many non-logo brands, trying them on, returning the ones that are bad, etc. might take me several hours to save tens of dollars. The point here is that you're misunderstanding why the logo matters. I don't care if there's a logo on my shorts or not - I care what the logo represents, which is a brand that consistently produces high-quality goods. I'm willing to pay more for that, especially when it saves me time shopping.
- tzs 3y agoLogos on shoes are useful. Here's how I used to buy shoes: 1. Go to a Payless ShoeSource store. 2. Find the sneaker (AKA trainers, tennis shoes, kicks, takkies, sportex, and many other names depending on where you are in the world) aisle. 3. Look at the logo on the shoes I'm wearing. 4. If they have the same shoes in my size, and I don't see any others that are noticeably less expensive, buy those shoes again. 5. If they no longer have the same shoes or there are shoes that are noticeably less expensive, try on shoes to find out what they have that is comfortable and ergonomic. Then pick a pair and buy them. I say "used to" because after 40 years of buying shoes that way Payless closed. When the announced they were going to close I went to the two local Payless stores and bought all the comfortable ergonomic sneakers in my size. I have not yet settled on a new shoe buying strategy.
- wildrhythms 3y agoPayless filed for bankruptcy in 2019 and hasn't had a brick and mortar store in years. It begs the question: how often are you buying in a physical store?
- browningstreet 3y agoYou can opt out of ads for an additional fee. I don’t want ads either. I’ll figure out which platforms I’ll pay the no-fee level and cut some. I do have a small password sharing friend group tho — the total costs of all the streaming networks we like is getting stupid.
- JeremyNT 3y ago> I flat out do not watch ads. If a platform has ads, I do not watch it full stop. I pay YouTube for no ads. If I lost that option, I would not watch YouTube. Same with all of the other streaming services. Netflix pushed it last year with preview rolls. It was barely acceptable/tolerable. But I will eagerly jettison any service that makes me pay for ads. Well, Amazon will include an ad-free option that you can pay more for. I think it makes sense to think of this is a price hike for the current service, combined with a new ad subsidized service offering. They probably realized that a price hike with no alternative would cost subscriptions, and just shoving existing customers into the new worse service at the old price point would retain them longer.
- iamnotsure 3y agoAlgorithmic ads (AA) vs plain old ads (POS).
- fipar 3y agoMost people I stumble upon wearing logos due it for signaling. The logos send signals like "I can afford this", or "I'm into sports". As a side effect, they're walking billboards for the brands, but that's just that: a side effect.
- ctvo 3y ago> I flat out do not watch ads. If a platform has ads, I do not watch it full stop. I pay YouTube for no ads. Great. Now you can pay 3 dollars for no ads on Prime Video if you want it too. Did this simple take have to be embedded in so much judgement and moral grandstanding?
- keernan 3y agoFor 50 years of my life, my dad always finalized a deal for a new car with one last requirement: the car must be free of all dealership logos (back then the dealership glued - or in some instances screwed - the dealership placard/logo onto the back trunk of the car). He was nasty about it and it always made me cringe. But they also always complied.
- anakaine 3y agoWe still do this today. It's not that uncommon an ask. Get it added as a sales note on the contract, and don't accept delivery unless they have complied. We tend to have heavily branded number plate holders and window stickers.
- ajdude 3y ago> I pay YouTube for no ads Except you still do get ads. With every single major YouTube video dropping a "now to talk about our sponsor" segment.
- redhale 3y agoTrue, but these are almost always very easily skippable.
- joshstrange 3y agoSponsorBlock is an amazing tool to stop this. I’m constantly surprised at how well it works.
- tomcam 3y agoHad a rich girlfriend when young. Her family loved LV luggage because it lasted forever and looked perfect. When I got rich, I bought a bunch of it for my family a long time ago and it looks to be in mint condition now, decades later. It’s also super easy to recognize on the luggage carousel. Never regretted it. Other than that I have to admit I never pay to advertise anything. I live on a farm and dress like a plumber, so I never actually match the luggage.
- Rant423 3y agoRelated: https://www.gocomics.com/calvinandhobbes/1992/08/27 https://www.gocomics.com/calvinandhobbes/1992/08/27
- thunky 3y ago> I flat out do not watch ads You must not have lived before the Internet or streaming video. There used be this thing called Cable TV, where every few minutes the show was interrupted to show several 30 second commercials. You could not skip them. There was no amount of money you could pay to avoid this horror. Only the strongest of humans had what it took to go without. The rest of us were brainwashed into buying detergent.
- bradknowles 3y agoI don't watch any video content with ads. Every time I try Hulu again, I quickly get so fed up that I quit whatever that show is before that episode is over. Or movie, or whatever. I'm happy to pay a premium price for not having ads on Prime, or AppleTV, or Disney+, YouTube, etc.... And if there's stuff out there that is not available ad-free, then I just don't watch it. I also run my browsers with all ad-blocking features and add-ons turned up as high as possible. And I don't wear branded clothing. At least, not obviously branded clothing -- there might be small tags or logos discreetly displayed, but nothing that is readable by anyone who isn't standing close enough to me to shake my hand.