New wave was never a good term. Hell, punk was a pointless genre too. There's just so many different brands and ideology. What do Duran Duran have to do with t

New wave was never a good term. Hell, punk was a pointless genre too. There's just so many different brands and ideology. What do Duran Duran have to do with the Talking Heads? Pretty close to nothing. I don't even see talking heads as much of a "punk band". Especially, in the mid-late eras, they seem more like a proto-jamband, but I'll admit I don't understand the style differences at a purely musical level. Other "new wave" acts really look more like just punk bands. I don't understand how the ramones got classified as new wave... do they use synths? That's not THE distinguishing factor, but it makes it look more like new wave, vs. traditional punk. ... but maybe a punk band can use synths without crossing over into "new wave".