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> So what? It still all needs compressing and caching and firing across the internet in a similar way, hence content. But it's not DBA and network engineers ca

> So what? It still all needs compressing and caching and firing across the internet in a similar way, hence content. But it's not DBA and network engineers calling it that, it's "everyone". It rubs me the wrong way the same way gamers suddenly using the word "franchise" did. "oh yeah, this obviously sucks and makes it a worse game, but I can understand why they would want that for their franchise".

robertlagrant 3y ago
It's not everyone. People who are Youtube creators say "content", sure. Wordpress says it because it manages a superset of these various things, and the users using it need the terminology to understand it. But that's not everyone. Most people watch movies or read books.
- johnnyworker 3y ago
  > People who are Youtube creators People who upload videos to youtube. That is what they do. And no, they don't need it. They could say "video". Easily. Also, I did put "everyone" in quotes for reason. Slice it how you want, a lot more people than those actually managing a "container" something else could be "content" in use that word. That was a shift that happened. And it's one thing when HR thinks of humans as resources, quite another when humans start referring to themselves that way.
  - robertlagrant 3y ago
    > That was a shift that happened. You could say this about anything. When did loads of people start saying "shift" instead of "change"? Or "space" instead of "garden" or "room" or "atrium"? Saying something changed doesn't give it much significance.
    - johnnyworker 3y ago
      It contradicts the claim that "content" is what people say because that's what they have to say, to understand what they're posting or reading/viewing. It's no more significant than is warranted by what we're talking about here. It's fine. > When did loads of people start saying "shift" instead of "change"? I'd say "shift" is a subset of "change" and slightly more specific (every shift is a change, not every change is a shift). People didn't change how they speak, some adopted the language of website operators, and then even more people started to parrot that unthinkingly.
      - robertlagrant 3y ago
        > It contradicts the claim that "content" is what people say because that's what they have to say No one's saying it's because they have to say it (who has to say anything?). There was a criticism of Wordpress being a CMS, and I was referring to that. > People didn't change how they speak, some adopted the language of website operators, and then even more people started to parrot that unthinkingly. I don't understand how people didn't change how they spoke if they adopted some language. What's the difference?

robertlagrant 3y ago

It's not everyone. People who are Youtube creators say "content", sure. Wordpress says it because it manages a superset of these various things, and the users using it need the terminology to understand it. But that's not everyone. Most people watch movies or read books.

johnnyworker 3y ago
> People who are Youtube creators People who upload videos to youtube. That is what they do. And no, they don't need it. They could say "video". Easily. Also, I did put "everyone" in quotes for reason. Slice it how you want, a lot more people than those actually managing a "container" something else could be "content" in use that word. That was a shift that happened. And it's one thing when HR thinks of humans as resources, quite another when humans start referring to themselves that way.
- robertlagrant 3y ago
  > That was a shift that happened. You could say this about anything. When did loads of people start saying "shift" instead of "change"? Or "space" instead of "garden" or "room" or "atrium"? Saying something changed doesn't give it much significance.
  - johnnyworker 3y ago
    It contradicts the claim that "content" is what people say because that's what they have to say, to understand what they're posting or reading/viewing. It's no more significant than is warranted by what we're talking about here. It's fine. > When did loads of people start saying "shift" instead of "change"? I'd say "shift" is a subset of "change" and slightly more specific (every shift is a change, not every change is a shift). People didn't change how they speak, some adopted the language of website operators, and then even more people started to parrot that unthinkingly.
    - robertlagrant 3y ago
      > It contradicts the claim that "content" is what people say because that's what they have to say No one's saying it's because they have to say it (who has to say anything?). There was a criticism of Wordpress being a CMS, and I was referring to that. > People didn't change how they speak, some adopted the language of website operators, and then even more people started to parrot that unthinkingly. I don't understand how people didn't change how they spoke if they adopted some language. What's the difference?