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> Culprits from Air India bombing in the 80s were acquitted since Canadian intelligence had decided to erase evidence. The Air India bombing killed 268 Canadia

> Culprits from Air India bombing in the 80s were acquitted since Canadian intelligence had decided to erase evidence. The Air India bombing killed 268 Canadian citizens. I do not understand how anyone can begin to imply that the Canadian Government would be more interested in "protecting" Khalistani terrorists than providing justice for their own citizens. Was it a catastrophic prosecution and investigation? Yes. But to jump to malice for something that every Canadian wanted justice for is ludicrous. > Khalistan is a non-issue within India Pretty sure it's a fairly significant issue inside Punjab. Or is your implication that the rest of Hindu India doesn't consider their opinion important? If so, you've just self-explained why the Khalistan movement exists in the first place. > I have no idea how good/bad Canada's National Post is The National Post was founded by one of the 2 main inspirations for the character of Logan Roy on succession. Overall they do not lean TOO conservative (https://www.allsides.com/news-source/national-post-media-bias https://www.allsides.com/news-source/national-post-media-bia...), however these days Justin Trudeau inspires INTENSE hatred from those even mildly conservative in Canada, and they foam at the mouth to criticism him for anything, especially when it fits into their narrative of him being Too Young, Too Arrogant, and Not Respected On The International Stage.

yumraj 3y ago
> Pretty sure it's a fairly significant issue inside Punjab. Or is your implication that the rest of Hindu India doesn't consider their opinion important? Do you have evidence to support that? Khalistan has been a non-issue in Punjab since the late 80s or so. There is no militancy nor is this an issue during elections or in the manifesto of any political party. Akali Dal, which is kinda Sikh religious party is not in government for last 2-3 elections and before that I believe it was in coalition with BJP, the so called Hindu-nationalist party, which is currently in power in center. Current and previous state governments are from centrist national parties. Whether or not it is discussed in hushed tones or not is something obviously I don’t know. Can it flare up again? Sure it can, and that is the hope of the Khalistanis in Canada and fear of people in India, which is why the sensitivity. May be a hyperbole, but when is comes to Khalistanis, Canada is playing with fire shattering these terrorists, many of whom have links with Punjabi organized crime and it is going to bite them hard. Sikh Gurudwaras have banners calling for assassination of Indian diplomats. I don’t know of any other civilized nation that would allow that to happen.
- deanCommie 3y ago
  > Do you have evidence to support that? It is genuinely impossible to find any information except from biased sources screaming that Sikhs don't want it. I cannot find an impartial survey of Sikh support for Khalistan EXCEPT in the international diaspora. This of course is itself problematic. One take is the diaspora outside of India is the only one free to offer an honest perspective. The other equally correct side is that the opinion of the international diaspora is irrelevant. Only the opinions of Sikhs in Punjab matter. I made an assumption and it might be flawed. I would love to find some concrete data.
  - fakedang 3y ago
    > the other equally correct side is that the opinion of the international diaspora is irrelevant. Only the opinions of Sikhs in Punjab matter. Yes, because the ones who migrated and cry out for Khalistan are a bunch of cowards seeking refuge in the West in the name of oppression. If they were actually interested in freedom, they would have stayed in India and carried on the fight. At least the majority of Kashmiris had the courage to stay back and carry on the fight, even under the covers, and not migrate en masse. I had attended an event for the Sikh community a few years back, which was attended by Sikhs from all over the world, including from USA, Australia, the UK and India. Nowhere in another community have I seen a strong culture of brotherliness and felicitation for good. And while there were a few Canadian Sikh families, they were far too few to be countable in one hand. Tells a lot about the kind of Sikhs that Canada is harboring, tbh.
    - deanCommie 3y ago
      Well...maybe. History is full of figures that have eventually only succeed in liberating some oppressed people from exile. Not saying that's the situation with Sikhs or that's who Nijjar is. But it does seem like he would have good reason to believe that advocating for Khalistan from inside India would get him into jail or worse. And if the work is important to the Sikhs in Punjab, it would definitely stand to reason that he might have had to do it from Canada. > I had attended an event for the Sikh community a few years back, which was attended by Sikhs from all over the world, including from USA, Australia, the UK and India. Nowhere in another community have I seen a strong culture of brotherliness and felicitation for good. And while there were a few Canadian Sikh families, they were far too few to be countable in one hand. Tells a lot about the kind of Sikhs that Canada is harboring, tbh. Is your criticism that Canadian Sikhs do not engage with the international Sikh diaspora? Not being a part of that community I guess I don't know why that might be. But since Canada contains the largest Sikh population outside of India, it's possible that they have their own self-reinforcing community (That amongst Canadians has exactly the same reputation as you mentioned - "a strong culture of brotherliness and felicitation for good") that they've disconnected from the international or Punjab Sikh community? That's not necessarily a problem - African Americans don't have a strong connection to Africans.
kaycey2022 3y ago
> I do not understand how anyone can begin to imply that the Canadian Government would be more interested in "protecting" Khalistani terrorists than providing justice for their own citizens. Obviously because they are brown Canadians and their lives count for less. Anyone who saw the outcome of the Canadian "investigation" and the following court trials where witnesses were murdered, would say the same thing. > Khalistan is a non-issue within India Its not a non-issue, but Punjabi Sikhs don't care about it in India. Elections are never fought on this topic and candidates with Khalistani leanings always lose. Sikhs are well integrated into Hindu society because Sikhism itself is an offshoot sect of Hinduism (now a formal religion), no matter what the Sikhs say. There are Sikh Gurudwaras and holy places across India. Khalistan is an issue in India in the national security context. Indians want to see the government to be acting against forces threatening India.

yumraj 3y ago

> Pretty sure it's a fairly significant issue inside Punjab. Or is your implication that the rest of Hindu India doesn't consider their opinion important? Do you have evidence to support that? Khalistan has been a non-issue in Punjab since the late 80s or so. There is no militancy nor is this an issue during elections or in the manifesto of any political party. Akali Dal, which is kinda Sikh religious party is not in government for last 2-3 elections and before that I believe it was in coalition with BJP, the so called Hindu-nationalist party, which is currently in power in center. Current and previous state governments are from centrist national parties. Whether or not it is discussed in hushed tones or not is something obviously I don’t know. Can it flare up again? Sure it can, and that is the hope of the Khalistanis in Canada and fear of people in India, which is why the sensitivity. May be a hyperbole, but when is comes to Khalistanis, Canada is playing with fire shattering these terrorists, many of whom have links with Punjabi organized crime and it is going to bite them hard. Sikh Gurudwaras have banners calling for assassination of Indian diplomats. I don’t know of any other civilized nation that would allow that to happen.

deanCommie 3y ago
> Do you have evidence to support that? It is genuinely impossible to find any information except from biased sources screaming that Sikhs don't want it. I cannot find an impartial survey of Sikh support for Khalistan EXCEPT in the international diaspora. This of course is itself problematic. One take is the diaspora outside of India is the only one free to offer an honest perspective. The other equally correct side is that the opinion of the international diaspora is irrelevant. Only the opinions of Sikhs in Punjab matter. I made an assumption and it might be flawed. I would love to find some concrete data.
- fakedang 3y ago
  > the other equally correct side is that the opinion of the international diaspora is irrelevant. Only the opinions of Sikhs in Punjab matter. Yes, because the ones who migrated and cry out for Khalistan are a bunch of cowards seeking refuge in the West in the name of oppression. If they were actually interested in freedom, they would have stayed in India and carried on the fight. At least the majority of Kashmiris had the courage to stay back and carry on the fight, even under the covers, and not migrate en masse. I had attended an event for the Sikh community a few years back, which was attended by Sikhs from all over the world, including from USA, Australia, the UK and India. Nowhere in another community have I seen a strong culture of brotherliness and felicitation for good. And while there were a few Canadian Sikh families, they were far too few to be countable in one hand. Tells a lot about the kind of Sikhs that Canada is harboring, tbh.
  - deanCommie 3y ago
    Well...maybe. History is full of figures that have eventually only succeed in liberating some oppressed people from exile. Not saying that's the situation with Sikhs or that's who Nijjar is. But it does seem like he would have good reason to believe that advocating for Khalistan from inside India would get him into jail or worse. And if the work is important to the Sikhs in Punjab, it would definitely stand to reason that he might have had to do it from Canada. > I had attended an event for the Sikh community a few years back, which was attended by Sikhs from all over the world, including from USA, Australia, the UK and India. Nowhere in another community have I seen a strong culture of brotherliness and felicitation for good. And while there were a few Canadian Sikh families, they were far too few to be countable in one hand. Tells a lot about the kind of Sikhs that Canada is harboring, tbh. Is your criticism that Canadian Sikhs do not engage with the international Sikh diaspora? Not being a part of that community I guess I don't know why that might be. But since Canada contains the largest Sikh population outside of India, it's possible that they have their own self-reinforcing community (That amongst Canadians has exactly the same reputation as you mentioned - "a strong culture of brotherliness and felicitation for good") that they've disconnected from the international or Punjab Sikh community? That's not necessarily a problem - African Americans don't have a strong connection to Africans.

kaycey2022 3y ago

> I do not understand how anyone can begin to imply that the Canadian Government would be more interested in "protecting" Khalistani terrorists than providing justice for their own citizens. Obviously because they are brown Canadians and their lives count for less. Anyone who saw the outcome of the Canadian "investigation" and the following court trials where witnesses were murdered, would say the same thing. > Khalistan is a non-issue within India Its not a non-issue, but Punjabi Sikhs don't care about it in India. Elections are never fought on this topic and candidates with Khalistani leanings always lose. Sikhs are well integrated into Hindu society because Sikhism itself is an offshoot sect of Hinduism (now a formal religion), no matter what the Sikhs say. There are Sikh Gurudwaras and holy places across India. Khalistan is an issue in India in the national security context. Indians want to see the government to be acting against forces threatening India.