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Might these stats be biased by the demographics that use Kagi? I don't use Pinterest, and never really encounter it on a daily basis, but some of my friends rea

Might these stats be biased by the demographics that use Kagi? I don't use Pinterest, and never really encounter it on a daily basis, but some of my friends really like the site. Tbf, they might use stackoverflow more, but seeing Hacker News on the top 5 doesn't seem to reflect the average web user's usage...

climb_stealth 3y ago
I wonder if it is also biased in the sense that it's only certain people who customise these things. And that it's only the most common ones. You would never see my favourite car forum listed here, but bumping it in search results is where I see value with the feature.
tayo42 3y ago
There was a time where Google image search was dominated by Pinterest results but clinking through never took you to the photo. And most of the photos were rehosting of the original so you wouldn't get that either.
hnben 3y ago
> Might these stats be biased by the demographics that use Kagi? yes, obviously. but also: Selection Bias Is A Fact Of Life https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/selection-bias-is-a-fact-of-life https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/selection-bias-is-a-fact-of...
dwighttk 3y ago
Do your friends who use it use Google to use it? Or do they go to the site itself. I don’t use the site itself but the irritating thing is a first page full of useless Pinterest links when searching for something.
super256 3y ago
I only recently discovered pinterest as a useful site, but only because a friend convinced me to create an account. It only becomes usable with an account and it even makes fun, but most people are probably like I was and don’t want to create an account and are annoyed of pinterest hijacking the „save image“ function, redirecting you when you don’t have an account and nagging you with a login wall. It really only becomes great if you give in (only took me 5 years or so).
janandonly 3y ago
Of course they are biased. Just look at how NYTimes is both blocked and upvoted on Kagi. Some people like a source and others don’t, it’s that simple really.
- d0gsg0w00f 3y ago
  For me, I ignore NYT because I'm not a subscriber and it's annoying to always hit the paywall.
  - xeromal 3y ago
    It's worth checking your library for a digital pass to the NY times and other papers.
EricMausler 3y ago
I used pinterest and still hate(d) when it popped up on search. Without too much conjecture I think the problem is search-related web crawlers and users have very different experiences with pinterest. To the web crawler, the information is there and easily accesible. To a user, it might be behind a login, or part of an image description, or a sidenote, or whatever. The page doesn't exactly load with what you are looking for front and center Additionally, I don't use it through a browser, I use it in an app, so im not logged in on my browser.

climb_stealth 3y ago

I wonder if it is also biased in the sense that it's only certain people who customise these things. And that it's only the most common ones. You would never see my favourite car forum listed here, but bumping it in search results is where I see value with the feature.

tayo42 3y ago

There was a time where Google image search was dominated by Pinterest results but clinking through never took you to the photo. And most of the photos were rehosting of the original so you wouldn't get that either.

hnben 3y ago

> Might these stats be biased by the demographics that use Kagi? yes, obviously. but also: Selection Bias Is A Fact Of Life https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/selection-bias-is-a-fact-of-life https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/selection-bias-is-a-fact-of...

dwighttk 3y ago

Do your friends who use it use Google to use it? Or do they go to the site itself. I don’t use the site itself but the irritating thing is a first page full of useless Pinterest links when searching for something.

super256 3y ago

I only recently discovered pinterest as a useful site, but only because a friend convinced me to create an account. It only becomes usable with an account and it even makes fun, but most people are probably like I was and don’t want to create an account and are annoyed of pinterest hijacking the „save image“ function, redirecting you when you don’t have an account and nagging you with a login wall. It really only becomes great if you give in (only took me 5 years or so).

janandonly 3y ago

Of course they are biased. Just look at how NYTimes is both blocked and upvoted on Kagi. Some people like a source and others don’t, it’s that simple really.

d0gsg0w00f 3y ago
For me, I ignore NYT because I'm not a subscriber and it's annoying to always hit the paywall.
- xeromal 3y ago
  It's worth checking your library for a digital pass to the NY times and other papers.

EricMausler 3y ago

I used pinterest and still hate(d) when it popped up on search. Without too much conjecture I think the problem is search-related web crawlers and users have very different experiences with pinterest. To the web crawler, the information is there and easily accesible. To a user, it might be behind a login, or part of an image description, or a sidenote, or whatever. The page doesn't exactly load with what you are looking for front and center Additionally, I don't use it through a browser, I use it in an app, so im not logged in on my browser.