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The poet is a faker Who's so good at his act He even fakes the pain Of pain he feels in fact.
by sasaf5 3y ago
The poet is a faker
Who's so good at his act
He even fakes the pain
Of pain he feels in fact.
- m463 3y ago"Art is what you can get away with" - Andy Warhol
- maxbond 3y agoSo if you deliver an empty canvas to a museum, and a court orders you to return your commission[1], I suppose it wasn't art. [1] https://www.msn.com/en-in/money/topstories/danish-artist-turned-in-blank-canvas-as-art-took-the-money-and-ran-he-has-to-pay-back-82k/ar-AA1gVSoa https://www.msn.com/en-in/money/topstories/danish-artist-tur...
- bloak 3y agoIn this version of the story (with less advertising) it says the artist only had to return the money provided for inclusion in the art works, not the "fee": https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/sep/18/danish-artist-jens-haaning-empty-frames-ordered-repay https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/sep/18/danish-artist-...
- m463 3y agosfmoma has an "artwork" on the wall that is just a large, white canvas. https://www.sfmoma.org/artwork/98.308.A-C/essay/white-painting-three-panel/ https://www.sfmoma.org/artwork/98.308.A-C/essay/white-painti... They also have something that looks like a collapsed black garbage bag (don't recall the name of it)
- diego_moita 3y agoMy favourite example of this bullshit is Duchamp's "The Fountain". In 1917 the "artist" Marcel Duchamp purchased an urinal in a New York store and submitted it as a work of art to an exhibition. And he got away with it, big time. The urinal became considered by specialists one of the most influential works of art of the 20th century and went to be on permanent exhibition at the Georges Pompidou centre, in Paris. In 2008 another "artist", Pierre Pinoncelli, went to that centre with an hammer and damaged Duchamp's "art". He claimed that his vandalism was also a work of art because Duchamp's urinal had lost it's subversive value. For some, Pinoncelli also got away with it. It would be fun if the center would put his hammer in exhibition, close to the urinal.
- AnimalMuppet 3y agoAnd, if I understand correctly, Duchamp was offended when someone called it "pretty". The point was to subvert the definition of art. (Or perhaps to expose that the definition of art had already been destroyed.)
- alberto_ol 3y ago"All bad poetry springs from genuine feeling. To be natural is to be obvious, and to be obvious is to be inartistic." OscarWilde
- kybernetikos 3y agoThe article has The poet is a man who feigns And feigns so thoroughly, at last He manages to feign as pain The pain he really feels Looks like it's different translations of the first stanza of the Portuguese original, the poem Autopsicografia O poeta é um fingidor Finge tão completamente Que chega a fingir que é dor A dor que deveras sente.
- velcrovan 3y agoThese are good examples of the “live sparrow” vs the “stuffed eagle” modes of translating poetry: https://thelocalyarn.com/article/the-live-sparrow https://thelocalyarn.com/article/the-live-sparrow
- kybernetikos 3y agoThe original has an ABAB rhyme scheme. Interestingly both translations have tried to retain one of the rhyming pairs, but they chose different lines. In one we have feign/pain (ABAC) and in the other we have act/fact (ABCB). Given how difficult translating poetry is, I think the Edouard Roditi translation (feign/pain) is really good (he even manages to rhyme two words that rhyme in the original and get the number of syllables close to the same), but the Richard Zenith translation (act/fact) has so much more energy.
- sasaf5 3y agoAnd of course, both translations have to do without the "fingidor/finge dor" wordplay.
- sasaf5 3y agoWhy not: The poet is a man who feigns Who's so good at his act He manages to feign as pain The pain he feels in fact.
- jorl17 3y agoI always feel that the original has a very implied period at the end of the first verse. My attempts: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37629946 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37629946
- HerculePoirot 3y ago> Fernando Pessoa channeled a grand, glorious chorus of writers > “Portugal had enjoyed an ‘Age of Pericles’ in the early twentieth century and produced a number of outstanding poets with different styles who devoted their works to the plurality of the gods” Channeled ? https://pastes.io/9olmpsncuy https://pastes.io/9olmpsncuy
- rikroots 3y agoMy poor attempt ... The poet is a deceiver One who pretends so completely The pain he affects in stanzas Is torment he know entirely