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Wow there's a lot of negative comments here on such a simple post along the lines of "Hey we adopted this new version of this library and it boosted our site pe

Wow there's a lot of negative comments here on such a simple post along the lines of "Hey we adopted this new version of this library and it boosted our site performance x%". I think the move React is making to embrace the server side is a great thing. It shows we pushed really hard in one direction, made great progress in building a simple and easy-to-grok front end JS library in doing so, but in the end found that the server _is_ the correct place for the majority of the processing to happen in most cases. The great thing with React Server Components is you don't have to change much about how you write react code, you can just define which specific components you need to render on the client side and boom, huge performance jump. Why is that a bad thing?

wild_egg 3y ago
It's not that RSC is a bad thing, there's just a lot of animosity built up from years of react developers shitting on the concept of processing on servers and antagonizing the developers who work in that space. Then, hey, it turns out those idiot backend devs that were so looked down upon may actually have known what they were doing after all. There's also the bit where RSC seems wonderful if all you know is react but seems very mediocre if you've any significant experience with any of a number of other backend stacks
- fsociety 3y ago
  I have yet to meet a frontend dev who called a backend dev an idiot. I have met plenty of backend devs who have indirectly called frontend devs idiots.
  - willio58 3y ago
    I have to agree on this. But also anyone who calls anyone else an "idiot" for how they code is doing it wrong™. We can learn from what eachother thrive in. For backend, it's usually data structures, databases, performance, etc. while on the frontend it's creating visually appealing UIs that feel good to interact with and both of those sides of web dev act to bring people into what we create time and time again. So when backend devs get mad when frontend devs say "Hey, maybe backend isn't so bad after all", that feels backwards.
  - tubthumper8 3y ago
    I agree as well, having worked on both sides (and "full stack"). Not really calling "idiot", but more of the bias that frontend development is easy and not "real" programming whereas I've never personally seen the reverse attitude. I have only worked at more "traditional" companies so that likely influences my experience as well, it may be different at different kinds of companies.

wild_egg 3y ago

It's not that RSC is a bad thing, there's just a lot of animosity built up from years of react developers shitting on the concept of processing on servers and antagonizing the developers who work in that space. Then, hey, it turns out those idiot backend devs that were so looked down upon may actually have known what they were doing after all. There's also the bit where RSC seems wonderful if all you know is react but seems very mediocre if you've any significant experience with any of a number of other backend stacks

fsociety 3y ago
I have yet to meet a frontend dev who called a backend dev an idiot. I have met plenty of backend devs who have indirectly called frontend devs idiots.
- willio58 3y ago
  I have to agree on this. But also anyone who calls anyone else an "idiot" for how they code is doing it wrong™. We can learn from what eachother thrive in. For backend, it's usually data structures, databases, performance, etc. while on the frontend it's creating visually appealing UIs that feel good to interact with and both of those sides of web dev act to bring people into what we create time and time again. So when backend devs get mad when frontend devs say "Hey, maybe backend isn't so bad after all", that feels backwards.
- tubthumper8 3y ago
  I agree as well, having worked on both sides (and "full stack"). Not really calling "idiot", but more of the bias that frontend development is easy and not "real" programming whereas I've never personally seen the reverse attitude. I have only worked at more "traditional" companies so that likely influences my experience as well, it may be different at different kinds of companies.