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> There hasn’t been a new Git repo launch in almost a decade,” Bansal told me. “Now you have GitHub, GitLab, Bitbucket from Atlassian, but that’s really it See

> There hasn’t been a new Git repo launch in almost a decade,” Bansal told me. “Now you have GitHub, GitLab, Bitbucket from Atlassian, but that’s really it Seems odd that he wouldn’t know about Sourcehut (2018) and Gitea (2016).

lolinder 3y ago
And Codeberg (2019), which was based on Gitea until they forked it into Forgejo (2022).
- remram 3y ago
  Codeberg is a service not a separate software. Just like you wouldn't count salsa.debian.org or framagit.org as separate from GitLab, they are the same with maybe some local customization.
  - lolinder 3y ago
    At this point Codeberg is clearly distinct from Gitea and is more thoroughly open-source in its nature than anything Harness is going to bring out, but yes, you could combine it with Forgejo if that feels more fair.
    - remram 3y ago
      At this point Codeberg is running Forgejo not Gitea.
      - lolinder 3y ago
        Yes, that's what I was saying.
inferiorhuman 3y ago
Mind you I use (and thus pay for) Sourcehut: the vast majority of folks won't be cross shopping Sourcehut and GitHub. As it stands now the UX is (to put it charitably) bad. There's a lot to like, but overall Sourcehut is disjointed rather than cohesive. The workflow itself is also an acquired taste. With a bit of spit and polish Sourcehut could be quite nice to use, but it's not there yet. Hell, I bet Drew could pick up some of the UX folks that GitHub laid off. The others mentioned are more or less knockoffs of GitHub, because at one point GitHub was quite worth emulating.
- internetter 3y ago
  > Hell, I bet Drew could pick up some of the UX folks that GitHub laid off. Drew would never.
  - inferiorhuman 3y ago
    Yeah, ideally he wouldn't.
- prepend 3y ago
  I bet there will be more sourcehut customers than this person’s new offering. He doesn’t even know his competitors.
  - bradrydzewski 3y ago
    Very possible. SourceHut is great and seems to be most popular with developers and open source teams (although I'm sure they also have corporate users too). We are more focused on companies and enterprises. These are different segments of the market with different needs. The former also tends to have higher user counts with lower average deal size, while the latter has lower user counts with very high average deal size. With that being said, Gitness is a rebranding of Drone, which has 10,000+ active installations so I would say we are off to a pretty good start!
az09mugen 3y ago
And Onedev also : https://github.com/theonedev/onedev https://github.com/theonedev/onedev
bradrydzewski 3y ago
This is probably my fault. Internally at Harness I have been hyping this launch as a "once in a decade" event. That unfortunately got translated into "first in a decade" when it hit the press. I do think the launch of a new, major open source Source Control system with kind of investment (12 full time engineers and counting) is a rare event, but I do wish it was worded differently. Nothing we can do about it now!
- niutech 3y ago
  How does Gitness differ from already existing open source alternatives, such as Gitlab, Gitea, Gogs, Forgejo, Codeberg, Gitweb?
  - bradrydzewski 3y ago
    Gitness actually launched in 2012 under the name Drone, with a focus on continuous integration. So Gitness has a very strong, mature pipeline engine that is also very popular in the Gogs and Gitea community (Gitness is backward compatible with any Drone yaml). Of course, this is just our initial launch which is a very important milestone, but we have a lot of feature gaps and a lot of work to do to make our Code Hosting solution a more interesting replacement. Stay tuned. Edit: if you have feature requests, let us know!
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cmjs 3y ago
Also Forgejo (2022)… They definitely know about Gitea – though they don't acknowledge it, it's partly based on Gitea. https://github.com/harness/gitness/pull/3364/files#diff-4673a3aba01813b595de187a7a6e9e63a3491d55821606fecd9f13a10c188a1d https://github.com/harness/gitness/pull/3364/files#diff-4673...

lolinder 3y ago

And Codeberg (2019), which was based on Gitea until they forked it into Forgejo (2022).

remram 3y ago
Codeberg is a service not a separate software. Just like you wouldn't count salsa.debian.org or framagit.org as separate from GitLab, they are the same with maybe some local customization.
- lolinder 3y ago
  At this point Codeberg is clearly distinct from Gitea and is more thoroughly open-source in its nature than anything Harness is going to bring out, but yes, you could combine it with Forgejo if that feels more fair.
  - remram 3y ago
    At this point Codeberg is running Forgejo not Gitea.
    - lolinder 3y ago
      Yes, that's what I was saying.

inferiorhuman 3y ago

Mind you I use (and thus pay for) Sourcehut: the vast majority of folks won't be cross shopping Sourcehut and GitHub. As it stands now the UX is (to put it charitably) bad. There's a lot to like, but overall Sourcehut is disjointed rather than cohesive. The workflow itself is also an acquired taste. With a bit of spit and polish Sourcehut could be quite nice to use, but it's not there yet. Hell, I bet Drew could pick up some of the UX folks that GitHub laid off. The others mentioned are more or less knockoffs of GitHub, because at one point GitHub was quite worth emulating.

internetter 3y ago
> Hell, I bet Drew could pick up some of the UX folks that GitHub laid off. Drew would never.
- inferiorhuman 3y ago
  Yeah, ideally he wouldn't.
prepend 3y ago
I bet there will be more sourcehut customers than this person’s new offering. He doesn’t even know his competitors.
- bradrydzewski 3y ago
  Very possible. SourceHut is great and seems to be most popular with developers and open source teams (although I'm sure they also have corporate users too). We are more focused on companies and enterprises. These are different segments of the market with different needs. The former also tends to have higher user counts with lower average deal size, while the latter has lower user counts with very high average deal size. With that being said, Gitness is a rebranding of Drone, which has 10,000+ active installations so I would say we are off to a pretty good start!

az09mugen 3y ago

And Onedev also : https://github.com/theonedev/onedev https://github.com/theonedev/onedev

bradrydzewski 3y ago

This is probably my fault. Internally at Harness I have been hyping this launch as a "once in a decade" event. That unfortunately got translated into "first in a decade" when it hit the press. I do think the launch of a new, major open source Source Control system with kind of investment (12 full time engineers and counting) is a rare event, but I do wish it was worded differently. Nothing we can do about it now!

niutech 3y ago
How does Gitness differ from already existing open source alternatives, such as Gitlab, Gitea, Gogs, Forgejo, Codeberg, Gitweb?
- bradrydzewski 3y ago
  Gitness actually launched in 2012 under the name Drone, with a focus on continuous integration. So Gitness has a very strong, mature pipeline engine that is also very popular in the Gogs and Gitea community (Gitness is backward compatible with any Drone yaml). Of course, this is just our initial launch which is a very important milestone, but we have a lot of feature gaps and a lot of work to do to make our Code Hosting solution a more interesting replacement. Stay tuned. Edit: if you have feature requests, let us know!

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cmjs 3y ago

Also Forgejo (2022)… They definitely know about Gitea – though they don't acknowledge it, it's partly based on Gitea. https://github.com/harness/gitness/pull/3364/files#diff-4673a3aba01813b595de187a7a6e9e63a3491d55821606fecd9f13a10c188a1d https://github.com/harness/gitness/pull/3364/files#diff-4673...