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> Visa Status: Must be US Citizen (no Green Cards or H1b visa candidates will be accepted) Given the recent SpaceX situation[1] about asylees, is this legal?

> Visa Status: Must be US Citizen (no Green Cards or H1b visa candidates will be accepted) Given the recent SpaceX situation[1] about asylees, is this legal? Can MGM claim national security implications more than SpaceX can? And SpaceX even allowed permanent residents. USCIS says: > Employers cannot discriminate when hiring, firing, or recruiting because of someone’s citizenship, immigration status or type of employment authorization. U.S. citizens, noncitizen nationals, asylees, refugees, and recent permanent residents are protected from this type of discrimination. [1] https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-sues-spacex-discriminating-against-asylees-and-refugees-hiring https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-sues-space...

huslage 3y ago
You can’t get a sponsorship done that fast right now I think. The green card thing is just xenophobic
- deleted 3y ago
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- belltaco 3y ago
  They're looking for contractors, there are plenty of H1B folks who are sponsored by agencies that contract them out to various companies. The normal term used in job postings is "no visa sponsorship".
  - marcinzm 3y ago
    But then MGM would have a contract with those agencies versus having the employees of those agencies apply as contractors to MGM directly, right?
    - belltaco 3y ago
      Correct, they'd pay the companies via corp-to-corp.
leetrout 3y ago
Contractors are not employees.
- cowsup 3y ago
  All the more reason why this makes no sense, no? It should be as simple as handing the money over to an entity, they get the job done, and you both move on. No healthcare considerations, or sponsoring of visas, or anything else that a standard employer must do to an employee.
  - leetrout 3y ago
    Thats correct. The disagreement with my comment shows people read what they wanted into what I said. Contracting means a different set of rules for hiring and paying. As someone else said they should not have even posted it like this.
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deaddodo 3y ago
It is perfectly legal to disallow Visa-requiring individuals. I don't believe it is legal to disallow permanent residents as they have the same employment rights as citizens. That being said, they could just omit the line and discriminate silently. The law doesn't guarantee you a job either so, unless you can undeniably prove you are the best for the job, they'd probably be safe (legally). This is what African-Americans (most prominently, but other groups as well) with obvious nomenclature have dealt with for years.
YeBanKo 3y ago
Not wanting H1b is fine and legal, because you can’t simply hire them. You need to file paperwork go prove that you can’t find the equivalent from local workforce. GC is weird, if they needed security clearance, but security clearance takes more than 3 weeks.
- belltaco 3y ago
  Non-citizens with work authorization are eligible for certain lower level security clearances, even if they're not permanent residents.
  - YeBanKo 3y ago
    Example?
    - belltaco 3y ago
      Some positions only require a public trust background investigation, which is technically not a security clearance but people do call it so. You do need to be a "US person", which non-immigrants with work authorization are.
    - appplication 3y ago
      One example: noncitizens are allowed to join the military, which generally requires minimum secret clearance for just about every job.
HWR_14 3y ago
Federal law allows discrimination to deal with other laws, agency rules or executive orders. The Nevada gaming commission is allowed to mandate such a rule and MGM is allowed to comply with it. I don't know if that's the source of the rule, but if so it would be legal
- dunham 3y ago
  I was thinking the same thing. All I could find via a quick google is: https://www.leg.state.nv.us/NRS/NRS-463.html It looks like members of the gaming control board and gaming commission must be citizens. But it seems non-citizens are ok in other situations, e.g.: 2. A county shall not deny a gaming license, finding of suitability or approval to a person solely because the person is not a citizen of the United States.
yesiamyourdad 3y ago
There are also cases where government regulations prohibit hiring non-citizens. Given that they're offering $100/hr when they're losing $8m/day, I expect that MGM would LOVE to hire anyone willing to work for below market rates. If a recruiter contacted me, I'd be telling them to triple the rate and then we can start a conversation. I'm sure their attorneys make $300/hr on the low end.

huslage 3y ago

You can’t get a sponsorship done that fast right now I think. The green card thing is just xenophobic

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belltaco 3y ago
They're looking for contractors, there are plenty of H1B folks who are sponsored by agencies that contract them out to various companies. The normal term used in job postings is "no visa sponsorship".
- marcinzm 3y ago
  But then MGM would have a contract with those agencies versus having the employees of those agencies apply as contractors to MGM directly, right?
  - belltaco 3y ago
    Correct, they'd pay the companies via corp-to-corp.

leetrout 3y ago

Contractors are not employees.

cowsup 3y ago
All the more reason why this makes no sense, no? It should be as simple as handing the money over to an entity, they get the job done, and you both move on. No healthcare considerations, or sponsoring of visas, or anything else that a standard employer must do to an employee.
- leetrout 3y ago
  Thats correct. The disagreement with my comment shows people read what they wanted into what I said. Contracting means a different set of rules for hiring and paying. As someone else said they should not have even posted it like this.

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deaddodo 3y ago

It is perfectly legal to disallow Visa-requiring individuals. I don't believe it is legal to disallow permanent residents as they have the same employment rights as citizens. That being said, they could just omit the line and discriminate silently. The law doesn't guarantee you a job either so, unless you can undeniably prove you are the best for the job, they'd probably be safe (legally). This is what African-Americans (most prominently, but other groups as well) with obvious nomenclature have dealt with for years.

YeBanKo 3y ago

Not wanting H1b is fine and legal, because you can’t simply hire them. You need to file paperwork go prove that you can’t find the equivalent from local workforce. GC is weird, if they needed security clearance, but security clearance takes more than 3 weeks.

belltaco 3y ago
Non-citizens with work authorization are eligible for certain lower level security clearances, even if they're not permanent residents.
- YeBanKo 3y ago
  Example?
  - belltaco 3y ago
    Some positions only require a public trust background investigation, which is technically not a security clearance but people do call it so. You do need to be a "US person", which non-immigrants with work authorization are.
  - appplication 3y ago
    One example: noncitizens are allowed to join the military, which generally requires minimum secret clearance for just about every job.

HWR_14 3y ago

Federal law allows discrimination to deal with other laws, agency rules or executive orders. The Nevada gaming commission is allowed to mandate such a rule and MGM is allowed to comply with it. I don't know if that's the source of the rule, but if so it would be legal

dunham 3y ago
I was thinking the same thing. All I could find via a quick google is: https://www.leg.state.nv.us/NRS/NRS-463.html It looks like members of the gaming control board and gaming commission must be citizens. But it seems non-citizens are ok in other situations, e.g.: 2. A county shall not deny a gaming license, finding of suitability or approval to a person solely because the person is not a citizen of the United States.

yesiamyourdad 3y ago

There are also cases where government regulations prohibit hiring non-citizens. Given that they're offering $100/hr when they're losing $8m/day, I expect that MGM would LOVE to hire anyone willing to work for below market rates. If a recruiter contacted me, I'd be telling them to triple the rate and then we can start a conversation. I'm sure their attorneys make $300/hr on the low end.