> This strikes me a rhetorical sleight of hand. > I just don't see a practical proposal here My previous comment @ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=375891

> This strikes me a rhetorical sleight of hand. > I just don't see a practical proposal here My previous comment @ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37589124 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37589124 : Sustainable and regenerative agriculture is entirely possible. You may want to explore practices such as natural, syntropic, permaculture, and agroforestry farming, to name just a few. While it may require more knowledge and labor, advancements in technology and automation could potentially mean only a slight increase in the workforce, from around 2% to maybe upto 4%. > We can see the recent debacle in Sri Lanka as a cautionary tale of what can happen if you try to force such a change Without a transition period, education, or support, it was poised to end up badly. > hobby farms using "restorative" practices and they're producing relatively little food Again, take a look into syntropic agriculture (Ernst Gotsch) and natural (or 'do-nothing') farming (Masanobu Fukuoka). Their yields are comparable to or better than those of their traditional counterparts, all while repairing the soil and without using any external inputs (thus saving significant costs). https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37390730 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37390730