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> Climate Change" has become the scapegoat for any disaster... accepting no responsibility for incompetence. No, now you are mixing two different topics togeth

> Climate Change" has become the scapegoat for any disaster... accepting no responsibility for incompetence. No, now you are mixing two different topics together for your agenda.

Alupis 3y ago
No I am not. Floods have happened since the beginning of time. Blaming poor preparations, poor responses and high casualty rates on mysterious forces outside our control is exactly what governments are doing (including in the linked article). Climate Change did not cause that flood, nor did Climate Change kill those people. The government of Libya did - anything else is a misdirection. We see this everywhere. Wildfires, hurricanes, floods, etc. These things have always happened - yet our responses and preparations are lacking - therefore "what could we possibly do? climate change!" is usually the answer. Never do we accept responsibility for our actions, such as decades of mismanagement, reduced budgets, indecisive leadership, and worse. The root cause of these floods was actually identified - decades of mismanaging their dam infrastructure. But, somehow, when the rotting dams finally gave way it's suddenly Climate Change at fault - not the incompetent Libyan government.
- throwbadubadu 3y ago
  Yes, and no. Responsibility and preparation (as well as avoidance measures) are lacking, yes, but also our self created climate change is responsible for increased frequency and strength of occurrences... doesn't help if these happened also before, and lacking similar if not more responsibility. Mixing two things. > Climate Change did not cause that flood, nor did Climate Change kill those people. It is all a probability game so you can't never say certainly, but it is very probable that flood wouldn't have happened, at least not that strong, without that much more energy, moisture etc in the atmosphere, so you are very likely wrong.

> Climate Change" has become the scapegoat for any disaster... accepting no responsibility for incompetence. No, now you are mixing two different topics together for your agenda.

Alupis 3y ago

No I am not. Floods have happened since the beginning of time. Blaming poor preparations, poor responses and high casualty rates on mysterious forces outside our control is exactly what governments are doing (including in the linked article). Climate Change did not cause that flood, nor did Climate Change kill those people. The government of Libya did - anything else is a misdirection. We see this everywhere. Wildfires, hurricanes, floods, etc. These things have always happened - yet our responses and preparations are lacking - therefore "what could we possibly do? climate change!" is usually the answer. Never do we accept responsibility for our actions, such as decades of mismanagement, reduced budgets, indecisive leadership, and worse. The root cause of these floods was actually identified - decades of mismanaging their dam infrastructure. But, somehow, when the rotting dams finally gave way it's suddenly Climate Change at fault - not the incompetent Libyan government.

throwbadubadu 3y ago
Yes, and no. Responsibility and preparation (as well as avoidance measures) are lacking, yes, but also our self created climate change is responsible for increased frequency and strength of occurrences... doesn't help if these happened also before, and lacking similar if not more responsibility. Mixing two things. > Climate Change did not cause that flood, nor did Climate Change kill those people. It is all a probability game so you can't never say certainly, but it is very probable that flood wouldn't have happened, at least not that strong, without that much more energy, moisture etc in the atmosphere, so you are very likely wrong.