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Are you saying a Harvard CS degree isn’t a thorough education? Or are you assuming that everyone at Harvard pays full freight? I don’t get the elitism or why y

by jmye 3y ago

Are you saying a Harvard CS degree isn’t a thorough education? Or are you assuming that everyone at Harvard pays full freight? I don’t get the elitism or why you think someone with a degree from a specific school is inherently stupid. That’s as weird as refusing to hire non-formally educated people.

morelisp 3y ago
I think you can get a better formal CS education than Harvard for a fraction of the price at two dozen places, probably including at least one state school you have access to. Harvard is good for signalling, traditional liberal arts, and pre-law (but, I repeat myself). It's not a very good teaching university overall, and especially not in CS.
- JambalayaJim 3y ago
  If you don’t have a high regard for the Harvard CS curriculum, it’s reasonable enough to disqualify people on that basis. That said, I think you’re completely out of touch with how 18 year olds choose universities. It can be as simple as a friend of theirs is also attending, or the school is close to a parent’s home, or they were actually in a liberal arts program before they switched into CS. Sometimes as you implied, it’s their parents making that decision for them. There’s no point in holding the cost of a student’s education over them, especially as you don’t know even how much they paid.
  - meneer_oke 3y ago
    > If you don’t have a high regard for the Harvard CS curriculum, it’s reasonable enough to disqualify people on that basis. It's not reasonable, those statements are liability for you and the company you represent. Hiring laws are quite strict of discrimination.
    - JambalayaJim 3y ago
      Is that discrimination? To prefer candidates from one university over another?
      - morelisp 3y ago
        Assuming you mean strictly in the hiring/legal sense, it is absolutely not.
  - morelisp 3y ago
    Yeah, sure, spare a tear for all the kids who accidentally ended up at Harvard.
    - JambalayaJim 3y ago
      The point of my comment wasn’t “Harvard kids are discriminated against”, the point is that your hiring logic doesn’t make sense.
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by jmye 3y ago

morelisp 3y ago

I think you can get a better formal CS education than Harvard for a fraction of the price at two dozen places, probably including at least one state school you have access to. Harvard is good for signalling, traditional liberal arts, and pre-law (but, I repeat myself). It's not a very good teaching university overall, and especially not in CS.

JambalayaJim 3y ago
If you don’t have a high regard for the Harvard CS curriculum, it’s reasonable enough to disqualify people on that basis. That said, I think you’re completely out of touch with how 18 year olds choose universities. It can be as simple as a friend of theirs is also attending, or the school is close to a parent’s home, or they were actually in a liberal arts program before they switched into CS. Sometimes as you implied, it’s their parents making that decision for them. There’s no point in holding the cost of a student’s education over them, especially as you don’t know even how much they paid.
- meneer_oke 3y ago
  > If you don’t have a high regard for the Harvard CS curriculum, it’s reasonable enough to disqualify people on that basis. It's not reasonable, those statements are liability for you and the company you represent. Hiring laws are quite strict of discrimination.
  - JambalayaJim 3y ago
    Is that discrimination? To prefer candidates from one university over another?
    - morelisp 3y ago
      Assuming you mean strictly in the hiring/legal sense, it is absolutely not.
- morelisp 3y ago
  Yeah, sure, spare a tear for all the kids who accidentally ended up at Harvard.
  - JambalayaJim 3y ago
    The point of my comment wasn’t “Harvard kids are discriminated against”, the point is that your hiring logic doesn’t make sense.
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