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Google street view pre-collapse: https://maps.app.goo.gl/dnt6aztvp4rjLmHx6 https://maps.app.goo.gl/dnt6aztvp4rjLmHx6 Bing street view post-collapse: https://ww

by Zak 3y ago

Google street view pre-collapse: https://maps.app.goo.gl/dnt6aztvp4rjLmHx6 https://maps.app.goo.gl/dnt6aztvp4rjLmHx6 Bing street view post-collapse: https://www.bing.com/maps?osid=c3224526-5ada-4a41-b8f7-e854f676b4ec&cp=35.781173~-81.283444&lvl=12.68&dir=49.5&pi=6.6&style=x&imgid=b9a61493-da8c-4931-a23c-c1233c7ce475&v=2&sV=2&form=S00027 https://www.bing.com/maps?osid=c3224526-5ada-4a41-b8f7-e854f... Openstreetmap shows the road divided by the creek: https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/35.78149/-81.28311 https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/35.78149/-81.28311 Looking at the street views, I think it would be pretty hard for someone driving safely not to see the washed out bridge from far enough to stop. The speed limit is 25 MPH, the road is straight, and the bridge is downhill from either side.

crazygringo 3y ago
I'm looking at that Bing link and concluding the exact opposite. Because news reports say the barricades had been removed and were missing. And he was driving at night and in the rain. And there are no streetlights there. It's a tiny short collapsed area that you're easily just not going to see until it's too late. You might notice that a patch of the road appears darker but assume it was recently resurfaced black asphalt or something -- not that the road was entirely missing. Depth perception doesn't work on a pitch black area of vision.
- lsaferite 3y ago
  Looking at the images, I'm confused how he drowned in that stream.
  - everforward 3y ago
    Look how high the banks are, and they're not undercut. The water must be getting up near that level with some amount of frequency to erode it like that. This looks like a lowpoint for a fairly wide area, so this creek is collecting rainwater over a pretty substantial plain. The creek is also wider upstream and dramatically narrows under the bridge. I wouldn't be surprised if that creek got 10 feet deep in heavy rain. There was a similar creek by my grandparents house that would get something like 15 feet deep and flood out the road.

by Zak 3y ago

crazygringo 3y ago

I'm looking at that Bing link and concluding the exact opposite. Because news reports say the barricades had been removed and were missing. And he was driving at night and in the rain. And there are no streetlights there. It's a tiny short collapsed area that you're easily just not going to see until it's too late. You might notice that a patch of the road appears darker but assume it was recently resurfaced black asphalt or something -- not that the road was entirely missing. Depth perception doesn't work on a pitch black area of vision.

lsaferite 3y ago
Looking at the images, I'm confused how he drowned in that stream.
- everforward 3y ago
  Look how high the banks are, and they're not undercut. The water must be getting up near that level with some amount of frequency to erode it like that. This looks like a lowpoint for a fairly wide area, so this creek is collecting rainwater over a pretty substantial plain. The creek is also wider upstream and dramatically narrows under the bridge. I wouldn't be surprised if that creek got 10 feet deep in heavy rain. There was a similar creek by my grandparents house that would get something like 15 feet deep and flood out the road.