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If it’s erased from clinical literature I want to know why. It’s entirely possible schizotaxia simply isn’t useful and the notion that it’s related to adhd, aut

If it’s erased from clinical literature I want to know why. It’s entirely possible schizotaxia simply isn’t useful and the notion that it’s related to adhd, autism, etc. isn’t accurate. I know personally adhd and schizo-associated symptoms are quite different. Similarly anxiety and schizo-related hyperarousal/paranoia function differently also. I would consider myself as coming accross as autistic in my day to day life, but having spoken with autistic people my interiority is vastly different to theirs (I have a schizophrenia spectrum disorder). Edited to add: it’s not that I am dismissing schizotaxia out of hand. I’m saying two different things. One, I would be interested to know why schizotaxia isn’t in medical literature. Two, as someone with a diagnosed schizophrenia spectrum disorder, I don’t feel a diagnosis of adhd, autism, or generalized anxiety wouldve fit me as a child due to what I understand about these conditions as a counter anecdotal.

PaulHoule 3y ago
It is all over the research literature but hasn't diffused into practice. I got my psych eval in 1978, I practically look like an index case for the syndrome Rado and Meehl describe in 1962. One some level I'd blame "politics" and selfish memes. There is a developmental approach that is associated with Freud and then attachment theorists like Bowlby which would have it that I was parented wrong before the obvious big trauma of Weston Elementary and I tried a long time to conform with this belief system and discover some pathway by which my mom taught me to be anxious, I never found it although I had the thread that her own attachment could have been insecure because her mother died when she was a toddler. I had a relative one time who was one of those people involved with the PTA who went a rant about how autistic and other disabled kids were draining the school budget dry and ruining it for the normal kids, so I think there's a political reason to deny syndromes that might create more protected classes that need more resources. I managed to get one year at a private school where the bullying was not tolerated, I was treated like a human being, and I actually got some friends but we weren't able to get funding for more than that. A safe school environment plus recognition of my condition could have changed the course of my life in a big way. And that's a very good reason schizotaxia/schizotypy to be ignored, to keep resources available for the normies and the other protected classes. There is also a stigma associated with schizophrenia that makes it a very difficult label to accept. The problems with executive function could be similar to ADHD and probably would respond somewhat to stimulant medication just as everybody else. My parents took me out of school when they tried to put me on stimulants and I'm pretty glad because I've seen what happened to many early adopters of stimulant medication. I think that whole enterprise of prescribing dangerously addictive drugs is not wholesome. This book describes a pseudo-autistic syndrome https://www.amazon.com/Loners-Life-Path-Unusual-Children/dp/0415066654 https://www.amazon.com/Loners-Life-Path-Unusual-Children/dp/... that may very well be related to schizotaxia according to Lenzenweger where you get the social isolation, special interests. In that case (like myself) social perception is intact and possibly hypersensitive (I wouldn't look people in the eye because I saw things they didn't want me to see, things they'd often get defensive about and deny, maybe it was my paranoia some of the time but I know sometimes I was right). I would test normal for social perception in a controlled environment but my social perception screws up 10-20% of the time in the real world which I've compensated for in various ways, limiting what I do is a major one. At the moment I'm mad at the branch of the "autism awareness" movement that has encouraged self-diagnosis, I went and got an eval for autism and found I didn't have it, it was quite the journey for me to find the truth. On some level I think there is a limited amount of headspace and I think various selfish memes (developmental theories about the family which were discredited in the case of autism, ADHD pill pushing, the neurotypical flocking "autism awareness" movement) have sucked the oxygen out of the room for one thing.

PaulHoule 3y ago

It is all over the research literature but hasn't diffused into practice. I got my psych eval in 1978, I practically look like an index case for the syndrome Rado and Meehl describe in 1962. One some level I'd blame "politics" and selfish memes. There is a developmental approach that is associated with Freud and then attachment theorists like Bowlby which would have it that I was parented wrong before the obvious big trauma of Weston Elementary and I tried a long time to conform with this belief system and discover some pathway by which my mom taught me to be anxious, I never found it although I had the thread that her own attachment could have been insecure because her mother died when she was a toddler. I had a relative one time who was one of those people involved with the PTA who went a rant about how autistic and other disabled kids were draining the school budget dry and ruining it for the normal kids, so I think there's a political reason to deny syndromes that might create more protected classes that need more resources. I managed to get one year at a private school where the bullying was not tolerated, I was treated like a human being, and I actually got some friends but we weren't able to get funding for more than that. A safe school environment plus recognition of my condition could have changed the course of my life in a big way. And that's a very good reason schizotaxia/schizotypy to be ignored, to keep resources available for the normies and the other protected classes. There is also a stigma associated with schizophrenia that makes it a very difficult label to accept. The problems with executive function could be similar to ADHD and probably would respond somewhat to stimulant medication just as everybody else. My parents took me out of school when they tried to put me on stimulants and I'm pretty glad because I've seen what happened to many early adopters of stimulant medication. I think that whole enterprise of prescribing dangerously addictive drugs is not wholesome. This book describes a pseudo-autistic syndrome https://www.amazon.com/Loners-Life-Path-Unusual-Children/dp/0415066654 https://www.amazon.com/Loners-Life-Path-Unusual-Children/dp/... that may very well be related to schizotaxia according to Lenzenweger where you get the social isolation, special interests. In that case (like myself) social perception is intact and possibly hypersensitive (I wouldn't look people in the eye because I saw things they didn't want me to see, things they'd often get defensive about and deny, maybe it was my paranoia some of the time but I know sometimes I was right). I would test normal for social perception in a controlled environment but my social perception screws up 10-20% of the time in the real world which I've compensated for in various ways, limiting what I do is a major one. At the moment I'm mad at the branch of the "autism awareness" movement that has encouraged self-diagnosis, I went and got an eval for autism and found I didn't have it, it was quite the journey for me to find the truth. On some level I think there is a limited amount of headspace and I think various selfish memes (developmental theories about the family which were discredited in the case of autism, ADHD pill pushing, the neurotypical flocking "autism awareness" movement) have sucked the oxygen out of the room for one thing.