> Regardless of all that, ultimately, you are advocating that people can't make their own decisions, that you and others should be in charge of what they can, o

> Regardless of all that, ultimately, you are advocating that people can't make their own decisions, that you and others should be in charge of what they can, or cannot do That is how everything in society works. That's why we have a justice system, why the practice of medicine, law, engineering and so on requires a license, etc. Have you looked at societies where those requirements don't exist or didn't exist in the past? Is that the kind of place where you want to live? This is a subject that requires a little bit of nuance, so blanket statements aren't going to move the conversation forward. I am not advocating for absolute elimination of liberties, not for an absolute absence of regulations. > It seems strange to me that people will advocate for people not having a choice when they have so little chance. Well, I believe we have adequately explained our rationale, the sort of conditions that we think strike a reasonable balance. It's okay if we don't agree.