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What you describe are not community features, but rather "user-sourced one-way value creation," ie. you can't benefit from the content you contribute unless Goo

by Rygian 3y ago

What you describe are not community features, but rather "user-sourced one-way value creation," ie. you can't benefit from the content you contribute unless Google takes unilateral action to allow you. Why don't you contribute to OpenStreetMap instead? That way it will be more up to date than Google Maps in your corner of Earth too (like it does in many areas). Organic Maps is a very good replacement for the Google Maps app, I am told.

solardev 3y ago
Responded to a similar sibling comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37598699 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37598699 But in regards to: > What you describe are not community features, but rather "user-sourced one-way value creation," ie. you can't benefit from the content you contribute unless Google takes unilateral action to allow you. It's not very different from, say, Metacritic or Steam or Amazon reviews or Goodreads. Or this HN forum, for the matter. These things unfortunately have a network effect, and it takes a critical mass of editors to make them worthwhile. Maps has that first mover advantage, coming out the same time at OSM but seeing massively more adoption, especially when it comes to POIs like restaurants and such. I find that OSM has better and better geography, but its POI layers are still lacking modern conveniences like contact information, reviews, and photos. Its UI is still pretty primitive and opts for miscellaneous tags instead of useful primary business attributes. Generally I just find it harder to use, and harder to share with others. I feel like it's juuuust near critical mass, but not quite there...
- Rygian 3y ago
  > It's not very different from, say, Metacritic or Steam or Amazon reviews or Goodreads. I fully agree, and refuse to feed unpaid content to them. > Or this HN forum, for the matter. No. (Unless HN is monetizing my content in some way I'm not aware of.) > [OSM] POI layers are still lacking modern conveniences Please come join us and help make it better! :-)
  - solardev 3y ago
    > Please come join us and help make it better! :-) Huh. Interesting idea. What language are the frontend and backend in?
    - Rygian 3y ago
      I was thinking about contributing to the map (using any of the editors [1]). There are many "front-ends" [2]. A developer's view of some of the OSM infrastructure is at [3]. [1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Editors https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Editors [2] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/List_of_OSM-based_services https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/List_of_OSM-based_servic... [3] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Develop https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Develop

by Rygian 3y ago

solardev 3y ago

Responded to a similar sibling comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37598699 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37598699 But in regards to: > What you describe are not community features, but rather "user-sourced one-way value creation," ie. you can't benefit from the content you contribute unless Google takes unilateral action to allow you. It's not very different from, say, Metacritic or Steam or Amazon reviews or Goodreads. Or this HN forum, for the matter. These things unfortunately have a network effect, and it takes a critical mass of editors to make them worthwhile. Maps has that first mover advantage, coming out the same time at OSM but seeing massively more adoption, especially when it comes to POIs like restaurants and such. I find that OSM has better and better geography, but its POI layers are still lacking modern conveniences like contact information, reviews, and photos. Its UI is still pretty primitive and opts for miscellaneous tags instead of useful primary business attributes. Generally I just find it harder to use, and harder to share with others. I feel like it's juuuust near critical mass, but not quite there...

Rygian 3y ago
> It's not very different from, say, Metacritic or Steam or Amazon reviews or Goodreads. I fully agree, and refuse to feed unpaid content to them. > Or this HN forum, for the matter. No. (Unless HN is monetizing my content in some way I'm not aware of.) > [OSM] POI layers are still lacking modern conveniences Please come join us and help make it better! :-)
- solardev 3y ago
  > Please come join us and help make it better! :-) Huh. Interesting idea. What language are the frontend and backend in?
  - Rygian 3y ago
    I was thinking about contributing to the map (using any of the editors [1]). There are many "front-ends" [2]. A developer's view of some of the OSM infrastructure is at [3]. [1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Editors https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Editors [2] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/List_of_OSM-based_services https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/List_of_OSM-based_servic... [3] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Develop https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Develop