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Not all parents will respond, and of those that do, not all parents respond honestly. But the child still needs to be fed, whether the parent thinks they need t
by IggleSniggle 3y ago
Not all parents will respond, and of those that do, not all parents respond honestly. But the child still needs to be fed, whether the parent thinks they need to be fed or not.
- ndsipa_pomu 3y agoIt shouldn't be the responsibility of teachers or the school to provide food, but if there's a real need, then why don't they offer the food to those that want it and just cut out the secret database crap?
- notahacker 3y agoYou're going to need some sort of database to record who wants the food sending to them...
- ndsipa_pomu 3y agoWhy? Gather together a big pile of food and let the kids know where it is with instructions to only take what they need for the next couple of days or so. Why go to the bother of sending the food out, when the kids are already there. Also, the parents/carers may feel insulted if they are thought to be receiving "charity", so it'd be a better idea to allow the kids to obtain extra food without involving the rest of the family.
- notahacker 3y agoThe kids aren't already there during the summer. As the GP pointed out.
- ndsipa_pomu 3y agoNeither are the teachers. This is why having the teachers act as a social security service is a poor idea.
- notahacker 3y agoThis may shock you, but the teachers aren't the ones delivering the food! Nevertheless, the organisation of services to provide free food to selected kids at home and at school requires a database to record which kids. Such a database is also accessible to schools for obvious reasons. If you have the very HN-y opinion that being on a database is so bad it would be better if the kids stayed hungry that's fine, but please at least make a token attempt to understand a system before dismissing it.
- ndsipa_pomu 3y ago> If you have the very HN-y opinion that being on a database is so bad it would be better if the kids stayed hungry that's fine, but please at least make a token attempt to understand a system before dismissing it. Quite the opposite - my view is that if someone is hungry, then they should be provided food as a basic function of human society. To be honest, I've never heard of this food delivery system from UK schools and I thought that the issue was mainly handled (poorly in my view) by having Food Banks for starving families. Can you point me to some information on this UK scheme please?
- notahacker 3y agoThe food delivery system is, frankly a bit of a patchwork rather than a national scheme now: there was a national scheme introduced during the pandemic to supply vouchers to kids that would otherwise have received school meals during school closures, and packed lunches to self isolating kids, a lot of campaigns to extend that to regular school holidays spearheaded by the unlikely figure of a professional footballer, and now a patchwork of schemes run by many local authorities covering everything from community organised lunch clubs to vouchers to packed lunch deliveries If you want to argue it sounds like a mess and would be better as a broad social security scheme I'm not going to disagree (though limiting numbers on it does save governments money...), but either way, it's going to need names and addresses on a database to make it work.
- ndsipa_pomu 3y ago
- SV_BubbleTime 3y agoIn the US there is a summer lunch program at participating schools. And kid any day can come get a free lunch, they just pick it up. Makes sure that kids get food in the summer. So… why delivery and why a list?