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Sure, but mostly they won't accept you if you are from a developing country trying to break in to the tech world. Its a catch 22 situation - they offer cheaper
by mkagenius 3y ago
Sure, but mostly they won't accept you if you are from a developing country trying to break in to the tech world. Its a catch 22 situation - they offer cheaper prices only to those who can afford expensive servers.
I know it's because of spam - but it is what it is.
- gumballindie 3y ago[flagged]
- puzzlingcaptcha 3y agoThere are better ways than blanket bans, but they are more expensive to implement and continuously maintain. The cheaper price comes from somewhere.
- gumballindie 3y ago[flagged]
- tallanvor 3y agoNot at all. It's far easier for criminals to use stolen credit card information to spin up servers for a month at a time than to compromise other servers. I'm sorry you seem to be from a country that Hetzner has identified as being responsible for too much fraud, but Hetzner refusing to provide services to people in certain countries isn't criminal.
- gumballindie 3y ago> I'm sorry you seem to be from a country that Hetzner has identified as being responsible for too much fraud Funny how y'all assume one has to be the victim because is standing up for that victim. Must be a cultural thing. Well, shocking news, I am not from a country that this dodgy company has decided to discriminate against.
- 5e92cb50239222b 3y agoI am, and you're truly an exception.
- gumballindie 3y ago[flagged]
- lionkor 3y ago> ethnicity You got a source / proof of that? Because that's a pretty big statement. Nationality makes no sense either, but I assume you mean country of residence. Yes, companies like Hetzner may not let you rent servers if you're in a country they don't like or have bad experience with - I feel like, while that sucks, that could be understandable. Banning based on ethnicity or nationality would mean that, if you're in Germany on a work visa and try to become a customer, they'd boot you based on your ethnicity. I don't think that's accurate at all. > I guess old habits die hard Not sure what you're implying here.
- NegativeK 3y agoIt's incredibly clear what they're implying here, and the comment is wildly inappropriate.
- quickthrower2 3y agoIs there an arb opportunity? Something as simple as someone in the US runs Kubernetes on Hetzner, then rents out the pods for anyone in the world to run their workloads on. They could restrict the workloads, e.g. firewall the outbound requests to a pre agreed list.
- dangerface 3y agoYes I used to do this for US customers when Hetzner and OVH would only take EU customers. The problem is that the customers interested in that price point are trash customers that only wan't to do all the dodgey stuff hetzner doesn't want them to do. Hetzner will detected it and will firewall the whole server all sites will go down the bad and the good and all of your customers will want refunds even if they where the cause of the problems. Bad business not worth it.
- wongarsu 3y agoThere are hosting providers offering webhosting and virtual servers that just run their operations on Hetzner dedicated servers. The virtual servers are just KVM to split the dedicated server into multiple, with a bit of management interface and some firewall rules.
- IntelMiner 3y agoThat...just sounds like a VPS? Or Amazon EC2, but a lot more clunky Or I guess if it's just random servers running random workloads, AWS Fargate
- quickthrower2 3y agoI think there is room for a clunky but cheaper VPS. There is room for competitors. For side projects I used Digital Ocean over AWS because of the DX, abstraction level (close enough to the metal but not too close) and not going to worry about getting a $1m bill. This arb would probably make something cheaper that digital ocean, maybe with the UX of vast.ai (very basic web interface and SSH for the rest of what you need)
- supriyo-biswas 3y agoI’m from India and have workloads at Hetzner. Also, you can always pay the £20 fee; especially so if you’re running a company.
- mkagenius 3y ago> Also, you can always pay the £20 fee; Can you elaborate more on this, does the fee help you get accepted?
- supriyo-biswas 3y agoWhen I signed up for Hetzner they asked for a national ID/passport OR pay a non-refundable €20 fee which gets you accepted immediately. I’m not sure what their risk assessment process looks like now.
- 1una 3y agoDuring registration you may get the opportunity to pay 20€ instead of uploading your ID card. The 20€ counts as account balance BTW.
- moooo99 3y agoUnfortunately, hetzner really seems to have trouble with piracy and spam. Given Plex is going as far as blocking hetzner servers completely, it seems like abuse is pretty widespread. It’s really annoying that this kind of behavior is ruining the reputation of an otherwise great Hoster and making their products inaccessible for large parts of the worlds population. Really wish the could implement measure to make their products accessible to users from these countries that are heavily restricted
- kiririn 3y agoWhereas you have Oracle Cloud (and its highly generous free tier) which seems to apply the inverse policy
- Citizen_Lame 3y agoThey are terrible company though. And those free tier options all get their servers deleted unless you switch to paid.
- daneel_w 3y agoPaid tenancy is just a matter of providing a working debit/credit card. You don't need to actually spend anything to keep using the free tiers with resource protection.
- 5e92cb50239222b 3y agoI've been using the same x86 server for 3 or 4 years at this point, plus another arm64 one since they introduced them (so two years?). Never had them deleting anything, haven't paid a dime.
- mardifoufs 3y agoNo they only turn them off if they detect 0 load for a few months
- profwalkstr 3y agoI’m from Brazil and I’m a Hetzner client. Have several dedicated servers and several cloud instances with them.