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I've been using VPN services for every byte of traffic in and out of my home and on my mobile phone for 15 years. This sort of thing is why and I will continu

by nly 3y ago

I've been using VPN services for every byte of traffic in and out of my home and on my mobile phone for 15 years. This sort of thing is why and I will continue to do so. Based on stories I've heard from people work in industry, every major ISP in the UK keeps DNS query logs and "internet connection records" and makes these available to authorities (without a warrant)

kmlx 3y ago
> Based on stories I've heard from people work in industry, every major ISP in the UK keeps DNS query logs and "internet connection records" and makes these available to authorities (without a warrant) there's no "story". it's the law in many countries: > In many countries, ISPs are legally required to monitor and store data about your browsing history for an extended period of time. This is called mandatory data retention. This data is used for policing, government surveillance, and sometimes even advertising. > The length of time that ISPs must retain data varies by country. The U.S. government requires ISPs to keep records of customers’ internet history for a minimum of 90 days, while the UK and European Union requires ISPs to keep browsing records for up to 12 months. 6 months: Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Sweden 1 year: Finland, France, Greece, Hungary, Ireland, Italy, Portugal, Spain, UK 18 months: Latvia 2 years: Australia, Poland
- cccbbbaaa 3y ago
  I don't know where your citations come from. EU law does not require such a thing. The Data Retention Directive mandated retention from 6 to 24 months, but it was invalidated by the CJUE years ago, and asserts that comparable national laws are illegal.
  - kmlx 3y ago
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_retention https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_retention the EU directive was invalidated, but member states still hold on to all the data. for example: https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/data-retention-france-illegally-extends-blanket-mass-surveillance-of-the-entire-population/#:~:text=the%20location%20data%20of%20electronic,and%20evidence%20are%20not%20provided https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/data-retention-france-illeg....
- rightbyte 3y ago
  Oh. The ISP can only see domain right? As long as it is https.
scrlk 3y ago
> Based on stories I've heard from people work in industry, every major ISP in the UK keeps DNS query logs and "internet connection records" and makes these available to authorities (without a warrant) Correct - this is due to the Investigatory Powers Act 2016. The list of agencies that can access internet connection records without a warrant is baffling (and scary): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Investigatory_Powers_Act_2016#Authorities_allowed_to_access_Internet_connection_records https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Investigatory_Powers_Act_2016#...
Moldoteck 3y ago
Bravo, and in the future, just like meta/threads does now in eu, you'll not be able to access needed information even with vpn bc they'll somehow detect you are cheating the system
varispeed 3y ago
That until using VPN become illegal as it is a way to circumvent the bill.

by nly 3y ago

kmlx 3y ago

> Based on stories I've heard from people work in industry, every major ISP in the UK keeps DNS query logs and "internet connection records" and makes these available to authorities (without a warrant) there's no "story". it's the law in many countries: > In many countries, ISPs are legally required to monitor and store data about your browsing history for an extended period of time. This is called mandatory data retention. This data is used for policing, government surveillance, and sometimes even advertising. > The length of time that ISPs must retain data varies by country. The U.S. government requires ISPs to keep records of customers’ internet history for a minimum of 90 days, while the UK and European Union requires ISPs to keep browsing records for up to 12 months. 6 months: Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Sweden 1 year: Finland, France, Greece, Hungary, Ireland, Italy, Portugal, Spain, UK 18 months: Latvia 2 years: Australia, Poland

cccbbbaaa 3y ago
I don't know where your citations come from. EU law does not require such a thing. The Data Retention Directive mandated retention from 6 to 24 months, but it was invalidated by the CJUE years ago, and asserts that comparable national laws are illegal.
- kmlx 3y ago
  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_retention https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_retention the EU directive was invalidated, but member states still hold on to all the data. for example: https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/data-retention-france-illegally-extends-blanket-mass-surveillance-of-the-entire-population/#:~:text=the%20location%20data%20of%20electronic,and%20evidence%20are%20not%20provided https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/data-retention-france-illeg....
rightbyte 3y ago
Oh. The ISP can only see domain right? As long as it is https.

scrlk 3y ago

> Based on stories I've heard from people work in industry, every major ISP in the UK keeps DNS query logs and "internet connection records" and makes these available to authorities (without a warrant) Correct - this is due to the Investigatory Powers Act 2016. The list of agencies that can access internet connection records without a warrant is baffling (and scary): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Investigatory_Powers_Act_2016#Authorities_allowed_to_access_Internet_connection_records https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Investigatory_Powers_Act_2016#...

Moldoteck 3y ago

Bravo, and in the future, just like meta/threads does now in eu, you'll not be able to access needed information even with vpn bc they'll somehow detect you are cheating the system

varispeed 3y ago

That until using VPN become illegal as it is a way to circumvent the bill.