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Trains have been electric for a few decades, you don't need super high tech batteries for that. I suspect the person you are replying to finds it ironic becaus

by sgu999 3y ago

Trains have been electric for a few decades, you don't need super high tech batteries for that. I suspect the person you are replying to finds it ironic because Tesla is largely competing with the rebirth of good public transports in the west. Musk hates them and regularly says so. What we need is good public transports for most people, and EVs as small as possible for the rest. That's not what Musk (and Tesla) offer.

lispm 3y ago
> Trains have been electric for a few decades But not all train lines are electrified. There are now Hydrogen-based trains in Northern Germany for such tracks. https://www.dw.com/en/german-railway-firm-ushers-in-new-era-for-hydrogen-trains/a-64070343 https://www.dw.com/en/german-railway-firm-ushers-in-new-era-...
palata 3y ago
> I suspect the person you are replying to finds it ironic because Tesla is largely competing with the rebirth of good public transports in the west. Precisely. Thanks :-). > What we need is good public transports for most people, and EVs as small as possible for the rest. That's not what Musk (and Tesla) offer. Spot on!
robertlagrant 3y ago
> Tesla is largely competing with the rebirth of good public transports in the west Tesla is by a huge margin largely competing with ICE cars.
- sgu999 3y ago
  Yes, that's the market they are biting into because the status quo is cars everywhere. Tesla is competing against that if we look at where we allocate our funds, our governments seem to prefer to subsidise big electric cars and new roads more than cycle lanes and railways... "EVs aren't here to save the climate, they are here to save cars"
  - robertlagrant 3y ago
    Well, cars are useful. A less polluting version of a useful thing is good in and of itself, if you step outside of any "us vs them" thinking. A train is a performance optimisation, just as how, a car filled with hard disks is higher bandwidth than a packet-switched network. But it isn't going to replace packet-switched networks.

by sgu999 3y ago

lispm 3y ago

> Trains have been electric for a few decades But not all train lines are electrified. There are now Hydrogen-based trains in Northern Germany for such tracks. https://www.dw.com/en/german-railway-firm-ushers-in-new-era-for-hydrogen-trains/a-64070343 https://www.dw.com/en/german-railway-firm-ushers-in-new-era-...

palata 3y ago

> I suspect the person you are replying to finds it ironic because Tesla is largely competing with the rebirth of good public transports in the west. Precisely. Thanks :-). > What we need is good public transports for most people, and EVs as small as possible for the rest. That's not what Musk (and Tesla) offer. Spot on!

robertlagrant 3y ago

> Tesla is largely competing with the rebirth of good public transports in the west Tesla is by a huge margin largely competing with ICE cars.

sgu999 3y ago
Yes, that's the market they are biting into because the status quo is cars everywhere. Tesla is competing against that if we look at where we allocate our funds, our governments seem to prefer to subsidise big electric cars and new roads more than cycle lanes and railways... "EVs aren't here to save the climate, they are here to save cars"
- robertlagrant 3y ago
  Well, cars are useful. A less polluting version of a useful thing is good in and of itself, if you step outside of any "us vs them" thinking. A train is a performance optimisation, just as how, a car filled with hard disks is higher bandwidth than a packet-switched network. But it isn't going to replace packet-switched networks.