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So you equate people who get food stamps to unemployed people? Here you see a guy that never even got the taste of minimal wage jobs and working to have someth

So you equate people who get food stamps to unemployed people? Here you see a guy that never even got the taste of minimal wage jobs and working to have something to eat. The pure privilege oozing from your comment is pathetic. Please do yourself a favor and touch some grass. There are millions of people working so much more than 40 hours and still receiving food stamps or people who realistically can't (disabilities etc.) that also receive food stamps and you just flat out ignore them to reinforce your image of the lazy do nothing. Please do yourself a favor and work minimal wage for 2 months and see if you can live of of that.

wtcactus 3y ago
And I see a virtue signaling middle class guy, that never once touched a working class person in his life. My parents are working class, they lived on minimum wage or next to it all their life. Never, for once, they lived on welfare. But that's the deal, they are working class. They worked their entire life, they used their money sparingly and without any luxuries for a big part of their life. Vacations, was going 2 weeks to the beach, by bus (later by car), coming and going every day, with a lot of bags, taking previously prepared food from home. Luxuries, was having a black and white TV, later a 2nd hand colour TV that lasted until I got into college and by the end was more than 20 years old. Eating out was a twice a year luxury for most of my infancy, and asking for food delivery? Are you joking me? Weekend programs, was my father getting a side job to make more money installing and configuring electrical appliances in middle class people homes. And taking me along with him to help. As hard-working and money saving people, they, of course, ended up building a better life for them and providing me an education within their means. Also, of course, they absolutely despise people that don't work and live on the state. So, go burn yourself with your ridiculous virtue signalling high morals. It takes a lot of privilege and disconnect from reality, to think, and even say that out loud, that hard-working people are the ones living on the state.
- kalleboo 3y ago
  Some people need delivery. For instance, if you can't afford a car and all the supermarkets are too far away.
- autoexec 3y ago
  > My parents are working class, they lived on minimum wage or next to it all their life. Never, for once, they lived on welfare. And clearly no one else has ever, or will ever have a different experience than yours and if they ever do it's because they are worse people and deserve it right? I'd be willing to bet there are a lot of people on food stamps who work harder than many high income earners myself included. If I suddenly had to spend hours on public transportation just to get to work where I'd spend all day doing the kinds of demanding jobs I pay others to do for me I'd envy my old life of sitting on my ass on the internet while in air conditioning all day. Poor people often work their asses off because they have to just to get what little they're paid and keep what little they have.
  - irreticent 3y ago
    Exactly. Their personal anecdote about something that happened years ago doesn't reflect the reality that many Walmart and McDonalds employees rely on government assistance to survive. https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/19/walmart-and-mcdonalds-among-top-employers-of-medicaid-and-food-stamp-beneficiaries.html https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/19/walmart-and-mcdonalds-among-...
- notTooFarGone 3y ago
  >Never, for once, they lived on welfare. And you think that minimum wage in the 80s is the same as minimum wage today? If you have a minimum wage job in Mississippi and work 40 hours a week for a whole year you get 15000$ before taxes and roughly 12000$ after taxes. According to https://www.mdhs.ms.gov/snap/ https://www.mdhs.ms.gov/snap/ you are then eligible for food stamps with 1+ family members. If you are a family of 4 and BOTH PARENTS work on minimum wage, you still get food stamps. Do you call parents with 2 children who both work 40 hours a week lazy? Should people with 4 children just work 60 hours? Oh they'd still get food stamps Cmon give me the numbers instead of your feelings. My guess is you won't even reply because you already made up your mind.
  - wtcactus 3y ago
    It wasn't the 80s, it was the 90s, and yes, the minimum wage in the 90's was the same as it is today when adjusted for infusion. [1] It's must be easy to be you on discussions, when you just ride the Gish Gallop with your arguments and keep making up stuff for the others to rebuke. [1] http://www.freeby50.com/2014/01/minimum-wage-history-adjusted-for.html?m=1 http://www.freeby50.com/2014/01/minimum-wage-history-adjuste...

wtcactus 3y ago

And I see a virtue signaling middle class guy, that never once touched a working class person in his life. My parents are working class, they lived on minimum wage or next to it all their life. Never, for once, they lived on welfare. But that's the deal, they are working class. They worked their entire life, they used their money sparingly and without any luxuries for a big part of their life. Vacations, was going 2 weeks to the beach, by bus (later by car), coming and going every day, with a lot of bags, taking previously prepared food from home. Luxuries, was having a black and white TV, later a 2nd hand colour TV that lasted until I got into college and by the end was more than 20 years old. Eating out was a twice a year luxury for most of my infancy, and asking for food delivery? Are you joking me? Weekend programs, was my father getting a side job to make more money installing and configuring electrical appliances in middle class people homes. And taking me along with him to help. As hard-working and money saving people, they, of course, ended up building a better life for them and providing me an education within their means. Also, of course, they absolutely despise people that don't work and live on the state. So, go burn yourself with your ridiculous virtue signalling high morals. It takes a lot of privilege and disconnect from reality, to think, and even say that out loud, that hard-working people are the ones living on the state.

kalleboo 3y ago
Some people need delivery. For instance, if you can't afford a car and all the supermarkets are too far away.
autoexec 3y ago
> My parents are working class, they lived on minimum wage or next to it all their life. Never, for once, they lived on welfare. And clearly no one else has ever, or will ever have a different experience than yours and if they ever do it's because they are worse people and deserve it right? I'd be willing to bet there are a lot of people on food stamps who work harder than many high income earners myself included. If I suddenly had to spend hours on public transportation just to get to work where I'd spend all day doing the kinds of demanding jobs I pay others to do for me I'd envy my old life of sitting on my ass on the internet while in air conditioning all day. Poor people often work their asses off because they have to just to get what little they're paid and keep what little they have.
- irreticent 3y ago
  Exactly. Their personal anecdote about something that happened years ago doesn't reflect the reality that many Walmart and McDonalds employees rely on government assistance to survive. https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/19/walmart-and-mcdonalds-among-top-employers-of-medicaid-and-food-stamp-beneficiaries.html https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/19/walmart-and-mcdonalds-among-...
notTooFarGone 3y ago
>Never, for once, they lived on welfare. And you think that minimum wage in the 80s is the same as minimum wage today? If you have a minimum wage job in Mississippi and work 40 hours a week for a whole year you get 15000$ before taxes and roughly 12000$ after taxes. According to https://www.mdhs.ms.gov/snap/ https://www.mdhs.ms.gov/snap/ you are then eligible for food stamps with 1+ family members. If you are a family of 4 and BOTH PARENTS work on minimum wage, you still get food stamps. Do you call parents with 2 children who both work 40 hours a week lazy? Should people with 4 children just work 60 hours? Oh they'd still get food stamps Cmon give me the numbers instead of your feelings. My guess is you won't even reply because you already made up your mind.
- wtcactus 3y ago
  It wasn't the 80s, it was the 90s, and yes, the minimum wage in the 90's was the same as it is today when adjusted for infusion. [1] It's must be easy to be you on discussions, when you just ride the Gish Gallop with your arguments and keep making up stuff for the others to rebuke. [1] http://www.freeby50.com/2014/01/minimum-wage-history-adjusted-for.html?m=1 http://www.freeby50.com/2014/01/minimum-wage-history-adjuste...