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I don’t see how this fixes housing problems. If there are 5k housing units available, what is the “ socially inclusive minimum wage” such that everyone can affo

by itake 3y ago

I don’t see how this fixes housing problems. If there are 5k housing units available, what is the “ socially inclusive minimum wage” such that everyone can afford housing? This formula assumes all property and services are in abundance, but that is not reality.

wbc 3y ago
well clearly the solution is www.houseguarantee.lol
- dools 3y ago
  Well ... isn't it? If people don't have jobs, give them a job. If people don't have houses, give them a house. Social housing isn't exactly a novel concept.
dools 3y ago
There's no reason that we shouldn't fix involuntary unemployment because the same policy doesn't also automatically fix other problems. A federal Job Guarantee does have the potential to ease housing pressures by increasing mobility and allowing people access to lower cost housing options that can ease local housing pressures in larger cities.
idiotsecant 3y ago
I think you're not stretching those mental muscles quite far enough. Keeping people fed, housed, and secured is kind of the point of having a society. If the housing doesn't exist, we build it. If the food doesn't exist, we grow it. If we don't have security, we make it. Those who don't have occupations can be enlisted to help with those efforts. The last time we did this it was called the new deal, and it revitalized america. It's time for a new new deal
- itake 3y ago
  > I think you're not stretching those mental muscles quite far enough. I think you're not reading the news enough... > If the housing doesn't exist, we build it. Where? Cities (and Nimbies) don't allow new housing to be built. Cities like NYC, LA, SF, Seattle are partially or fully surrounded by water. How do we "grow" the land? Why? Cities cap rent prices, so it doesn't make sense for a builder or investor to spend $1m getting permits and building property to make $1k/mo in rent. > If the food doesn't exist, we grow it. This is easy for the USA, but doesn't help for countries like Sri Lanka that physically can't grow their own food.

by itake 3y ago

wbc 3y ago

well clearly the solution is www.houseguarantee.lol

dools 3y ago
Well ... isn't it? If people don't have jobs, give them a job. If people don't have houses, give them a house. Social housing isn't exactly a novel concept.

dools 3y ago

There's no reason that we shouldn't fix involuntary unemployment because the same policy doesn't also automatically fix other problems. A federal Job Guarantee does have the potential to ease housing pressures by increasing mobility and allowing people access to lower cost housing options that can ease local housing pressures in larger cities.

idiotsecant 3y ago

I think you're not stretching those mental muscles quite far enough. Keeping people fed, housed, and secured is kind of the point of having a society. If the housing doesn't exist, we build it. If the food doesn't exist, we grow it. If we don't have security, we make it. Those who don't have occupations can be enlisted to help with those efforts. The last time we did this it was called the new deal, and it revitalized america. It's time for a new new deal

itake 3y ago
> I think you're not stretching those mental muscles quite far enough. I think you're not reading the news enough... > If the housing doesn't exist, we build it. Where? Cities (and Nimbies) don't allow new housing to be built. Cities like NYC, LA, SF, Seattle are partially or fully surrounded by water. How do we "grow" the land? Why? Cities cap rent prices, so it doesn't make sense for a builder or investor to spend $1m getting permits and building property to make $1k/mo in rent. > If the food doesn't exist, we grow it. This is easy for the USA, but doesn't help for countries like Sri Lanka that physically can't grow their own food.