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I prefer to eat meat. Staying away from common grains more and more over the past five years has really improved my overall health. My inflammation is reduced a

I prefer to eat meat. Staying away from common grains more and more over the past five years has really improved my overall health. My inflammation is reduced and all of my blood tests that I run twice+ a year are great. Lab grown meat seems like it might work some day, but the real thing seems to beat out any kind of vegan/vegetarian option for my own personal health outcomes.

zolbrek 3y ago
Meat is great. Factory farming not so. I'd like to see governments subsidize farms where the livestock isn't maltreated and pumped full of who knows what.
mistrial9 3y ago
red meat in middle age is associated with Male Erectile Dysfunction, accelerated tumor growth, and colon cancers, particularly processed meat like hot dogs. But that is a personal topic. On the greater scale, the ability of people to put long-term survival ahead of immediate gratification is part of the remarkable story of humanity. Both of these are reasons to reconsider absolutism on this topic, no?
- PaulHoule 3y ago
  The case against processed red meat seems more certain, for unprocessed meat it seems less certain. From my own dealings with animals I'm more concerned about the animal welfare issues with chicken than any other meat, that is, I'm increasingly convinced from my own dealings with birds and other animals that birds are just as smart and as able to suffer as mammals. Yes, chicken have a better feed conversion ratio than other animals but commercial chickens are raised exclusively on grain whereas at least other animals are partially raised on forage which has can have less environmental impact (leave soil intact) and can possibly have waste production which is scaled by the ability to put it back on fields (I can witness hay fields at an understocked horse farm grow in productivity year after year even though it is one of very few understocked animal operations that I've ever seen) whereas commercial chicken is the worse kind of CAFO. See "domestic animals" in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permaculture https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permaculture

zolbrek 3y ago

Meat is great. Factory farming not so. I'd like to see governments subsidize farms where the livestock isn't maltreated and pumped full of who knows what.

mistrial9 3y ago

red meat in middle age is associated with Male Erectile Dysfunction, accelerated tumor growth, and colon cancers, particularly processed meat like hot dogs. But that is a personal topic. On the greater scale, the ability of people to put long-term survival ahead of immediate gratification is part of the remarkable story of humanity. Both of these are reasons to reconsider absolutism on this topic, no?

PaulHoule 3y ago
The case against processed red meat seems more certain, for unprocessed meat it seems less certain. From my own dealings with animals I'm more concerned about the animal welfare issues with chicken than any other meat, that is, I'm increasingly convinced from my own dealings with birds and other animals that birds are just as smart and as able to suffer as mammals. Yes, chicken have a better feed conversion ratio than other animals but commercial chickens are raised exclusively on grain whereas at least other animals are partially raised on forage which has can have less environmental impact (leave soil intact) and can possibly have waste production which is scaled by the ability to put it back on fields (I can witness hay fields at an understocked horse farm grow in productivity year after year even though it is one of very few understocked animal operations that I've ever seen) whereas commercial chicken is the worse kind of CAFO. See "domestic animals" in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permaculture https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permaculture