But the diagnosis of what causes those ills will be some variant of "men just suck and bring it on themselves, how can we help them be more like women?" What p

But the diagnosis of what causes those ills will be some variant of "men just suck and bring it on themselves, how can we help them be more like women?" What people mean here is talking about problems imposed on men by society and how to fix that, not discussion that merely boils down to repeating feminist talking points. For example, one issue affecting men is the way they are vulnerable to immediate and vicious punishment if any woman anywhere makes allegations regardless of whether they are substantiated or even eventually proven false. Try bringing that up with your friends and see what happens.