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I find this a bit hard, the author is clearly framing this from an anti left prospective but I also think isn't 100% wrong in some of the discussion around men

I find this a bit hard, the author is clearly framing this from an anti left prospective but I also think isn't 100% wrong in some of the discussion around men from the left. However, I also think it is complicated. We can't talk about progressive policies while ignoring the very real advantages that men (largely white men, which I am one) have had for many years. That doesn't mean that men should suffer while we work towards a more equal society. But to some degree there may be a need to take a back seat and there will be some unavoidable pain along the way especially while what you have been conditioned towards changes. But there are pieces that I agree with. Mental health being a big one. There is still a lot of stigma around mental health for men. A lot of this comes from a toxic masculinity view (which to be clear I have seen some women contribute to this view as well) that it makes you "less of a man" or whatever and men not getting the help that they need. This does go beyond just mental health but just the idea of asking for help making it seem like you are some sort of failure. I feel like a lot of us here are likely in a more progressive environment. I mean just Monday I was out with dinner with friends, I happened to have a psych evaluation and got my results that day and I mentioned it because I was curious about others thoughts and opinions. I can say the same thing about coworkers or even my Boss. But having family and friends in far less progressive parts of this country does make me believe that attitudes like this are still the exception in the US. We still have a long way to go for mental health for everyone in this country and (based on my experience) there is still a ton of stigma for men and it really is ignored my the left for the most part.

bloopernova 3y ago
We're wrung out by society, every drip of productivity or money grabbed by a mad free for all struggle to... be comfortable and not have to struggle. Men and women in the USA are used up by industry and capital to the point of damaging their bodies. People turn to mood-altering substances to try to dull the mental, emotional, and physical pain. In parallel to the efforts to make society better for both men and women, we should be attacking the root causes of oppression. We can only fix that by attacking inequality, poverty, lack of access to mental/physical healthcare, and injustice. If you reduce the stressors, fewer people will turn to the toxic aspects of society that promise easy answers and simple actions. We do need to be listening to everyone, with no exceptions. However there's no guarantee that those ideas will be good or moral, and some segments or ideologies forget that. There's no right to have your ideas accepted or to never receive criticism.

bloopernova 3y ago

We're wrung out by society, every drip of productivity or money grabbed by a mad free for all struggle to... be comfortable and not have to struggle. Men and women in the USA are used up by industry and capital to the point of damaging their bodies. People turn to mood-altering substances to try to dull the mental, emotional, and physical pain. In parallel to the efforts to make society better for both men and women, we should be attacking the root causes of oppression. We can only fix that by attacking inequality, poverty, lack of access to mental/physical healthcare, and injustice. If you reduce the stressors, fewer people will turn to the toxic aspects of society that promise easy answers and simple actions. We do need to be listening to everyone, with no exceptions. However there's no guarantee that those ideas will be good or moral, and some segments or ideologies forget that. There's no right to have your ideas accepted or to never receive criticism.