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> Like previous versions, we’ve taken steps to limit DALL·E 3’s ability to generate [...] adult [...] content. And so continues the trend of "progressive" AI c

> Like previous versions, we’ve taken steps to limit DALL·E 3’s ability to generate [...] adult [...] content. And so continues the trend of "progressive" AI companies deliberately handicapping their models for no real good reason.

hiddencost 3y ago
So continues the trend of bad takes.
- AbrahamParangi 3y ago
  Complaining about censorious moralizing is valid. You don’t have to defend it just because you view it as a partisan attack.
  - ShamelessC 3y ago
    What?
- 93po 3y ago
  Please provide more substance when saying something like this. Kindly explain why you feel it is flawed instead of flatly rejecting it without elaboration.
  - zarzavat 3y ago
    The comment is not forthcoming but the point is valid because it’s pretty obvious that the reason they are afraid of generating adult content is because of the risk that people e.g. use it to make porn of people without their consent, CP, shock images, or just anything that will harm OpenAI’s reputation and get them sued/regulated into the ground. Not because Sam Altman is some kind of evangelical moralizer.
lantry 3y ago
Your reply reminds me of that meme "everything I don't like is woke". How is blocking porn a "progressive" thing? aren't conservatives the ones blocking porn these days? for example: https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/republican-anti-porn-law-internet-crackdown-1234730407/ https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/republ...
- AbrahamParangi 3y ago
  I think you should trust Rolling Stone on conservatives about as much as you should trust Fox News on the topic of progressives.
  - lantry 3y ago
    Okay, here's the links to the bills themselves. - utah: https://le.utah.gov/~2023/bills/static/SB0287.html https://le.utah.gov/~2023/bills/static/SB0287.html - louisiana (pdf): https://legis.la.gov/legis/ViewDocument.aspx?d=1289498 https://legis.la.gov/legis/ViewDocument.aspx?d=1289498 - florida: https://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2023/472/ https://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2023/472/ - texas: https://capitol.texas.gov/BillLookup/History.aspx?LegSess=88R&Bill=HB1181 https://capitol.texas.gov/BillLookup/History.aspx?LegSess=88...
thinkingtoilet 3y ago
Conservatives (in the US meaning of the word) are exclusively the ones clutching their pearls about pornography. I don't know how you can be so confused on the subject. Three red states have even started the process of banning pornographic websites. https://www.pcmag.com/how-to/pornhub-blocks-access-utah-heres-how-to-watch https://www.pcmag.com/how-to/pornhub-blocks-access-utah-here... In the end, this is about liability, not morals.
- dmix 3y ago
  From OpenAI's own statements: > OpenAI claims it focused a lot of work on DALL-E 3 in creating robust safety measures to prevent the creation of lewd or potentially hateful images. The safety measures in OpenAI is pretty much cliche progressive hyper-moderation in 2023. You see them same approach on Reddit and elsewhere, and the left-leaning communities are consistently the most locked down to a particular overton window. This is not a very controversial take. It goes well beyond just pornography and explicitly violent stuff.
  - thinkingtoilet 3y ago
    Go ahead and try to sell a product to enterprises where the creation of violent and pornographic images is possible. I promise you that you'll get zero sales. This isn't censorship nor is it about "progressive" values. This is capitalism.
    - dmix 3y ago
      Again this goes well well beyond pornography and violence. It was already very aggressive and now they claim that invested a ton more work in making it even more “safe”.
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calimoro78 3y ago
Progressive = porn-enabling? No real good reason = let’s have kids use this without limiting their imagination nor psychological damage?
TheRealHB 3y ago
True, not only handicapping is already over the top with most models, but even mentioning it here gets you flagged, see my honest comment at the end (-1), amazing how people are censoring themselves now.

hiddencost 3y ago

So continues the trend of bad takes.

AbrahamParangi 3y ago
Complaining about censorious moralizing is valid. You don’t have to defend it just because you view it as a partisan attack.
- ShamelessC 3y ago
  What?
93po 3y ago
Please provide more substance when saying something like this. Kindly explain why you feel it is flawed instead of flatly rejecting it without elaboration.
- zarzavat 3y ago
  The comment is not forthcoming but the point is valid because it’s pretty obvious that the reason they are afraid of generating adult content is because of the risk that people e.g. use it to make porn of people without their consent, CP, shock images, or just anything that will harm OpenAI’s reputation and get them sued/regulated into the ground. Not because Sam Altman is some kind of evangelical moralizer.

lantry 3y ago

Your reply reminds me of that meme "everything I don't like is woke". How is blocking porn a "progressive" thing? aren't conservatives the ones blocking porn these days? for example: https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/republican-anti-porn-law-internet-crackdown-1234730407/ https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/republ...

AbrahamParangi 3y ago
I think you should trust Rolling Stone on conservatives about as much as you should trust Fox News on the topic of progressives.
- lantry 3y ago
  Okay, here's the links to the bills themselves. - utah: https://le.utah.gov/~2023/bills/static/SB0287.html https://le.utah.gov/~2023/bills/static/SB0287.html - louisiana (pdf): https://legis.la.gov/legis/ViewDocument.aspx?d=1289498 https://legis.la.gov/legis/ViewDocument.aspx?d=1289498 - florida: https://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2023/472/ https://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2023/472/ - texas: https://capitol.texas.gov/BillLookup/History.aspx?LegSess=88R&Bill=HB1181 https://capitol.texas.gov/BillLookup/History.aspx?LegSess=88...

thinkingtoilet 3y ago

Conservatives (in the US meaning of the word) are exclusively the ones clutching their pearls about pornography. I don't know how you can be so confused on the subject. Three red states have even started the process of banning pornographic websites. https://www.pcmag.com/how-to/pornhub-blocks-access-utah-heres-how-to-watch https://www.pcmag.com/how-to/pornhub-blocks-access-utah-here... In the end, this is about liability, not morals.

dmix 3y ago
From OpenAI's own statements: > OpenAI claims it focused a lot of work on DALL-E 3 in creating robust safety measures to prevent the creation of lewd or potentially hateful images. The safety measures in OpenAI is pretty much cliche progressive hyper-moderation in 2023. You see them same approach on Reddit and elsewhere, and the left-leaning communities are consistently the most locked down to a particular overton window. This is not a very controversial take. It goes well beyond just pornography and explicitly violent stuff.
- thinkingtoilet 3y ago
  Go ahead and try to sell a product to enterprises where the creation of violent and pornographic images is possible. I promise you that you'll get zero sales. This isn't censorship nor is it about "progressive" values. This is capitalism.
  - dmix 3y ago
    Again this goes well well beyond pornography and violence. It was already very aggressive and now they claim that invested a ton more work in making it even more “safe”.

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calimoro78 3y ago

Progressive = porn-enabling? No real good reason = let’s have kids use this without limiting their imagination nor psychological damage?

TheRealHB 3y ago

True, not only handicapping is already over the top with most models, but even mentioning it here gets you flagged, see my honest comment at the end (-1), amazing how people are censoring themselves now.