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From the end of this announcement (emphasis mine): "DALL·E 3 is designed to decline requests that ask for an image in the style of a living artist. Creators ca
by gwerbret 3y ago
From the end of this announcement (emphasis mine):
"DALL·E 3 is designed to decline requests that ask for an image in the style of a living artist. Creators can now also opt their images out from training of our future image generation models."
Very carefully-worded statement. So...still relying on people's hard work, but on the upside, you get to opt out of having your work be fodder for DALL·E4." </s>
- shmatt 3y agoSo * using living artists work to train models = good * generating living artists work using said models = bad Good ethical consistency from the OpenAI crew
- gumballindie 3y agoWell OpenAI is consitent in that it consistently tries to monetise other people's work without paying for it and in doing so it leverages the gullibility of the masses to defend their actions. Clever.
- tsukikage 3y agoAn artist using an artbook as reference material = good An artist tracing an image in an artbook and selling it = bad Seems consistent to me
- CptFribble 3y agoI think it's worth reframing this analogy: An artist using an artbook as reference material = good An artist with one billion arms, using every artbook ever published, creating millions of images per second in every possible style for fractions of a penny per image, outcompeting every other artist forever = bad
- space_fountain 3y agoI think I'm sympathetic to that idea, but the ethical consideration there isn't that it violates copyright. It's that it's disruptive to society/the economy. Or maybe one could argue that because it's owned?
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- callalex 3y agoArt books are not free, they require paying a licensing fee to the rights holder.
- tsukikage 3y agoIf the artist stole the artbook from a shop, the problem is not that they are using it as a reference; the problem is that they stole it. Likewise if they download the pdf from a pirate site. It is a separate, different problem. You can tell because there would still be a problem even if they didn't then go on to produce art, or read it at all. If, however, the rights holder chooses to just give them away; or, y'know, puts them on their own website for anyone to look at - there is then no license fee to be paid for looking. Note that this still does not mean someone can make copies and sell them. That's a separate right. But using such materials as a reference is just fine, and people do this all the time.
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- torginus 3y agoBut not opt out of training Dalle4 on Dalle3 outputs, which were trained on your art.