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And another round of races commences! Some folks seem to have some strong ire towards OpenAI (maybe a bit less recently), but for one, they seem to do a really
by tysam_and 3y ago
And another round of races commences!
Some folks seem to have some strong ire towards OpenAI (maybe a bit less recently), but for one, they seem to do a really, really, _really_ good job at making themselves "the benchmark to beat" for certain things, and in doing that, I think they really seem to push the field quite far forward. <3 :'))))
- unnouinceput 3y ago>Some folks seem to have some strong ire towards OpenAI... Yes, they should. OpenAI IS Microsoft, never forget this. Any old timer like myself remembers the crap Microsoft pulled in 90's. And nowadays they still would do the same (and in background sometime they still do it) if they would lead in those areas. I have no love towards FB/Zucky boi, but the move to make LLAMA free is a good one. Hopefully another leak comes from inside OpenAI and we get access to everything.
- yunwal 3y agoNot even in the background. In order to use BingGPT you have to use the edge browser (there are ways around this but they are not obvious to a nontechnical user). What could possibly be the reason for that besides anticompetitive behavior?
- flir 3y ago> I have no love towards FB/Zucky boi, but the move to make LLAMA free is a good one. I think that might be a bit "enemy of my enemy". Remember "commoditize your complement"? Not that I'm averse to the tech giants forcing each other into a race to the bottom.
- jprete 3y agoI dislike OpenAI because they were founded to work on AI safety, and the most anti-safety thing you can possibly do is encourage competition over AI capabilities, which is exactly what they are doing over and over again.
- astrange 3y agoAI safety is the dumbest idea in the world by people who think computers are magic, so confusing its meaning is great. The original AI safety people now think LLM training might accidentally produce an AI through "mesa-optimizers", which is more or less a theory that if you randomly generated enough numbers one of them will come alive and eat you.
- tysam_and 3y agoWhile I dislike the silliness that you're alluding to, I think you're using multiple meanings of the phrase 'AI Safety' there all lumped into one negative association. There are risks, esp in a profit-motivated capitalistic environment. Most researchers don't take the LessWrong in-culture talk seriously. I'm not sure many people are going to be able to actually understand the concerns of people in that group given the way you've presented their opinion(s).
- astrange 3y agoThose people are the ones who founded OpenAI, so it's specifically the kind of thing they are pivoting away from.
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- golol 3y ago> Most researchers don't take the LessWrong in-culture talk seriously Yes but politicians do, for some reason. AI Safety has become a meaningless term, because it is so broad it ranges from "no slurs please" over "diverse skin colors in pictures please" to the completely hypothetical "no extinction plz".
- dragonwriter 3y ago“diverse skin colors in pictures”, and, more critically, “AI” vision systems in government use for public programs should work for people of different skin colors, is not so much “AI safety”, as the kind of AI ethics issue that the broader “AI safety” marketing campaign was designed to marginalize, dilute, and distract from.
- boppo1 3y ago><3 :')))) What is the meaning of this? Why is it part of your post?
- cooper_ganglia 3y agoI think it's a heart and a smiling face with a tear :)
- tysam_and 3y agoYeah it's just a habit for what I do, feels most comfortable for me when commenting or messaging people. We humans all have our quirks! <3 :'))))