3 ms·
I'm Indian, been living in Europe and Switzerland for almost the past decade. I've spent a considerable time of my upbringing in South east Asia and the Middle
by fakedang 3y ago
I'm Indian, been living in Europe and Switzerland for almost the past decade. I've spent a considerable time of my upbringing in South east Asia and the Middle East. I currently reside in Switzerland, specifically Zurich, with occasional stints to the US for business. I used to live in Germany prior to that. There used to be a time I dreamt of Western citizenship, but not anymore. Hope that answers your "question", although I'm certain you'd be loathe to reciprocate the same favor to me and reveal your origin.
As for the climate hypocrisy argument, sorry to hurt your preconceived notions, but it's already proven that most of the waste that ends up dumped in Malaysia, Indonesia and the Philippines.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-malaysia-environment-plastic-idUSKBN2BT1YT https://www.reuters.com/article/us-malaysia-environment-plas...
https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/Environment/Philippines-slams-the-door-on-world-s-plastic-waste#:~:text=MANILA%20%2D%2D%20The%20Philippines%20is,moratorium%20on%20waste%2Drelated%20imports https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/Environment/Philippines-sl....
https://e360.yale.edu/features/plastic-waste-imports-recycling-indonesia https://e360.yale.edu/features/plastic-waste-imports-recycli...
But go on, vacillate and down vote in your self righteousness.
- unethical_ban 3y agoI applaud you for answering the question. I'm from Texas, United States. Your argument comparing climate protestors and governments who ship garbage to developing countries is bunk, though. Ever thought about who those protestors are angry with? An intelligent conversation can be had about failing democratic institutions in the west, the need to disincentive wasteful consumption, and (as happens already) what levels of support developed countries owe to developing countries to dissuade the latter from ramping up fossil fuels consumption. But your finger wagging still doesn't make sense in the context of thinking India or the developing world is any better.
- fakedang 3y ago> But your finger wagging still doesn't make sense in the context of thinking India or the developing world is any better. I never implied that India or China are doing any better (although India has taken massive strides which is usually ignored by the West). My gripe is with Western countries criticizing the global south for environmental neglect, when they don't do anything about it and simply ship away their problems. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/30/climate/oil-kenya-africa-plastics-trade.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/30/climate/oil-kenya-africa-...
- glogla 3y ago[flagged]
- avgcorrection 3y agoOur Western attitude towards freedom of opinion on display.
- glogla 3y ago[flagged]
- avgcorrection 3y agoComplete non-sequitur since I said nothing about restricting anyone's freedom to say anything. I was critiquing your attitude. Attitude.
- glogla 3y ago[flagged]
- avgcorrection 3y agoI mean go nuts with that for all I care. But the refrain “then just leave” is the most unoriginal and vapid comeback. If someone has a bad opinion or argument then it shouldn't be hard to come up with something better. Absolutely anyone under any regime—British or Iranian—can say “then leave if you don't like it”.
- fakedang 3y agoThis is just pulling a strawman argument. I'm criticizing the West for precisely destroying the way of life that you have had, in favour of some misguided sense of tolerance intermixed with arrogance. I don't need to destroy you or your way of life, because a.) I don't think about you at all and b.) you and your government are already destroying your way of life.