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Anyone have a recommendation for the an affordable security cameras that would works without a cloud? I want to replace a collection of Blink cameras. Looking f

Anyone have a recommendation for the an affordable security cameras that would works without a cloud? I want to replace a collection of Blink cameras. Looking for doorbell cam, indoor and outdoor. Home Automation integration a plus.

etchalon 3y ago
Ubiquiti is the best in the market in terms of breadth and capabilities.
- bilal4hmed 3y ago
  A key thing with ubiquiti is that you need all ubiquiti hardware for the cameras. It's an expensive affair
  - kawfey 3y ago
    it's one of the few walled gardens that i'm actually happy with
  - criddell 3y ago
    If they work, are easy to setup and configure, and are reliable, I have no problem paying a hefty premium. I'm tired of trying to get cheap garbage to work (I'm currently struggling with Hikvision cameras and a QNAP NAS).
arwineap 3y ago
If you are looking for interpretability look for onvif compatible cameras which will be usable by everything I use standard cameras so I can write my own software. It's been a fun project but it's still pretty rough around the edges
windows_sucks 3y ago
I've really enjoyed using Reolink + Blue Iris.
lfmunoz4 3y ago
amcrest is the best I found. 100 dollars, HD, power over ethernet. built-in http interface to grab videos / stream video. So you I just plugin ethernet cable camera gets an IP, and you can configure it to push videos at some interval to any server, or connect to stream for a live stream.
- nedrylandJP 3y ago
  Aren't Amcrests just rebadged Dahuas with all the baggage? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dahua_Technology#Cybersecurity_vulnerabilities https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dahua_Technology#Cybersecurity...
bri3d 3y ago
Ubiquiti, for some definition of affordable, if you want something that works out of the box. Cheap IP CCTV cameras like Reolink, Loryta, or Amcrest, isolated in their own physical LAN (they're full of security vulnerabilities, but you can keep them isolated and not care), and combined with Frigate + HomeAssistant is pretty good too if you want to nerd out on a solution. I personally hate needing out on home computing stuff but this is the one place I chose to invest because off the shelf cloud solutions are _so bad_.
joshstrange 3y ago
Reolink + Reolink NVR. Completely locally, you don't have to touch the cloud. I can access it from anywhere (after punching holes in my router for specific ports or just VPN). I ran ZoneMinder with IPCams for years before just getting the Reolink NVR (I already had mostly Reolink Cameras) and I'm still kicking myself for not doing it sooner. I have spent a grand total of zero minutes of maintenance on this NVR, I spent untold hours babysitting ZoneMinder. Also the NVR has RTSP (or is it RTMP?) feeds I can pull into HomeAssistant and use for display/processing. So many times I'd go to pull up a feed in ZoneMinder and realize the system was down, locked up, having some other odd issue. With my Reolink NVR "It just works", it was worth every penny and it wasn't even that expensive.
- vorpalhex 3y ago
  Reolink has hardcoded backdoor creds. https://www.cisa.gov/news-events/ics-advisories/icsa-21-019-02 https://www.cisa.gov/news-events/ics-advisories/icsa-21-019-...
  - joshstrange 3y ago
    Correct me if I’m wrong but that appears to apply to the cameras themselves which are not on my network. They plug directly into the NVR (which provides PoE) and are not exposed to the network at large.
    - vorpalhex 3y ago
      Why do you assume the NVR is free from hardcoded creds?
      - joshstrange 3y ago
        Because it’s not listed in the list of affected devices. Also if that’s a concern then don’t expose the NVR. Use something like tailscale or a VPN to access it remotely (or don’t access it remotely).
mikecoles 3y ago
Amcrest cameras feeding into Frigate.
jcalvinowens 3y ago
I use raspberry pi zeros and the little "arducam" CSI boards. It's incredibly cheap and works great, you can make them talk to whatever you like.
Zaheer 3y ago
Anker (Eufy) has some now. I haven't used them but if anyone has would love to hear about their experience here. https://us.eufy.com/collections/security https://us.eufy.com/collections/security
- t3rabytes 3y ago
  https://www.theverge.com/23573362/anker-eufy-security-camera-answers-encryption https://www.theverge.com/23573362/anker-eufy-security-camera... Maybe avoid Eufy...
  - jessehattabaugh 3y ago
    Just don't turn on mobile notification previews.
- jessehattabaugh 3y ago
  I've owned a few EufyCams and a couple doorbell cams. They work pretty well; the motion sensing is a little too sensitive for an urban area, but they'd be perfect for suburban/rural areas. They can detect people, cars, and animals. The newest base station can be upgraded with a SATA HDD/SSD. There was a security kerfuffle last year because motion notifications sent to your phone contained video previews which were then stored insecurely. They fixed that, and it's a feature you can disable. It's not nearly as bad as what has happened to Nest/Wyze cams where attackers can gain access to live video and even talk through the speakers.
izacus 3y ago
Reolink and Ubiquiti have good options that don't need the cloud.
- throwing_away 3y ago
  Unfortunately Ubiquiti now requires you to buy into their proprietary NVR :/
- intrasight 3y ago
  Reolink is great. I'm about to add their PoE Video Doorbell. I already have two of their cameras connected to my Synology.
  - grvdrm 3y ago
    Doorbells work well - I have two. Good choice.

etchalon 3y ago

Ubiquiti is the best in the market in terms of breadth and capabilities.

bilal4hmed 3y ago
A key thing with ubiquiti is that you need all ubiquiti hardware for the cameras. It's an expensive affair
- kawfey 3y ago
  it's one of the few walled gardens that i'm actually happy with
- criddell 3y ago
  If they work, are easy to setup and configure, and are reliable, I have no problem paying a hefty premium. I'm tired of trying to get cheap garbage to work (I'm currently struggling with Hikvision cameras and a QNAP NAS).

arwineap 3y ago

If you are looking for interpretability look for onvif compatible cameras which will be usable by everything I use standard cameras so I can write my own software. It's been a fun project but it's still pretty rough around the edges

windows_sucks 3y ago

I've really enjoyed using Reolink + Blue Iris.

lfmunoz4 3y ago

amcrest is the best I found. 100 dollars, HD, power over ethernet. built-in http interface to grab videos / stream video. So you I just plugin ethernet cable camera gets an IP, and you can configure it to push videos at some interval to any server, or connect to stream for a live stream.

nedrylandJP 3y ago
Aren't Amcrests just rebadged Dahuas with all the baggage? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dahua_Technology#Cybersecurity_vulnerabilities https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dahua_Technology#Cybersecurity...

bri3d 3y ago

Ubiquiti, for some definition of affordable, if you want something that works out of the box. Cheap IP CCTV cameras like Reolink, Loryta, or Amcrest, isolated in their own physical LAN (they're full of security vulnerabilities, but you can keep them isolated and not care), and combined with Frigate + HomeAssistant is pretty good too if you want to nerd out on a solution. I personally hate needing out on home computing stuff but this is the one place I chose to invest because off the shelf cloud solutions are _so bad_.

joshstrange 3y ago

Reolink + Reolink NVR. Completely locally, you don't have to touch the cloud. I can access it from anywhere (after punching holes in my router for specific ports or just VPN). I ran ZoneMinder with IPCams for years before just getting the Reolink NVR (I already had mostly Reolink Cameras) and I'm still kicking myself for not doing it sooner. I have spent a grand total of zero minutes of maintenance on this NVR, I spent untold hours babysitting ZoneMinder. Also the NVR has RTSP (or is it RTMP?) feeds I can pull into HomeAssistant and use for display/processing. So many times I'd go to pull up a feed in ZoneMinder and realize the system was down, locked up, having some other odd issue. With my Reolink NVR "It just works", it was worth every penny and it wasn't even that expensive.

vorpalhex 3y ago
Reolink has hardcoded backdoor creds. https://www.cisa.gov/news-events/ics-advisories/icsa-21-019-02 https://www.cisa.gov/news-events/ics-advisories/icsa-21-019-...
- joshstrange 3y ago
  Correct me if I’m wrong but that appears to apply to the cameras themselves which are not on my network. They plug directly into the NVR (which provides PoE) and are not exposed to the network at large.
  - vorpalhex 3y ago
    Why do you assume the NVR is free from hardcoded creds?
    - joshstrange 3y ago
      Because it’s not listed in the list of affected devices. Also if that’s a concern then don’t expose the NVR. Use something like tailscale or a VPN to access it remotely (or don’t access it remotely).

mikecoles 3y ago

Amcrest cameras feeding into Frigate.

jcalvinowens 3y ago

I use raspberry pi zeros and the little "arducam" CSI boards. It's incredibly cheap and works great, you can make them talk to whatever you like.

Zaheer 3y ago

Anker (Eufy) has some now. I haven't used them but if anyone has would love to hear about their experience here. https://us.eufy.com/collections/security https://us.eufy.com/collections/security

t3rabytes 3y ago
https://www.theverge.com/23573362/anker-eufy-security-camera-answers-encryption https://www.theverge.com/23573362/anker-eufy-security-camera... Maybe avoid Eufy...
- jessehattabaugh 3y ago
  Just don't turn on mobile notification previews.
jessehattabaugh 3y ago
I've owned a few EufyCams and a couple doorbell cams. They work pretty well; the motion sensing is a little too sensitive for an urban area, but they'd be perfect for suburban/rural areas. They can detect people, cars, and animals. The newest base station can be upgraded with a SATA HDD/SSD. There was a security kerfuffle last year because motion notifications sent to your phone contained video previews which were then stored insecurely. They fixed that, and it's a feature you can disable. It's not nearly as bad as what has happened to Nest/Wyze cams where attackers can gain access to live video and even talk through the speakers.

izacus 3y ago

Reolink and Ubiquiti have good options that don't need the cloud.

throwing_away 3y ago
Unfortunately Ubiquiti now requires you to buy into their proprietary NVR :/
intrasight 3y ago
Reolink is great. I'm about to add their PoE Video Doorbell. I already have two of their cameras connected to my Synology.
- grvdrm 3y ago
  Doorbells work well - I have two. Good choice.