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> With great success regarding the containment of the far right, they poll quite often on second place now. So why is this happening? Isn't it a sign that they

by pxtail 3y ago

> With great success regarding the containment of the far right, they poll quite often on second place now. So why is this happening? Isn't it a sign that they are proposing ideas more attractive to more and more people? Or alternatively people are becoming skeptical about ideas and policies realized so far by current government over the years?

bradley13 3y ago
The success of the far right in Europe is driven by migration. Huge numbers of economic migrants make their way illegally to Europe. They have little education and no useful work skills. WTF are we supposed to do with them? The correct solution is to send illegal migrants right back to Africa. However, only the far right parties dare say that - hence, the increasing support they are getting, despite their other positions.
- hef19898 3y ago
  The latest increase in popularity of the AfD is in part due to the question of home heating devices...
- polygamous_bat 3y ago
  > The correct solution is to send illegal migrants right back to Africa. However, only the far right parties dare say that - hence, the increasing support they are getting, despite their other positions. In case you're unaware, the reason Europe has its current asylum standards largely because of what happened between 1933-1945. So would your proposed solution be: 1. Deny asylum to anyone and everyone, even those fleeing genocide ("Sorry that happened to you, we don't have room here!"), or 2. Implement a color chart a la Family Guy [1], so only the "right people" can come in? [1] https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/family-guy-skin-color-chart https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/family-guy-skin-color-chart
  - blockmarker 3y ago
    The idea that we should allow our countries and our way of life to be ruined because of something that happened 70 years ago is absurd.
skippyboxedhero 3y ago
It is also because elections seem to have little impact on policies. This is due to many reasons but you will see polling get more and more extreme because voters keep telling politicians what they want, and nothing changes. I will add, this isn't terribly surprising in Europe. In Italy, due to flaws in their political system, you have had politicians parachuted in from the EU repeatedly to run the country...I am not sure what people expect. If you place significant limitations on democracy and then ignore public opinion, people will get annoyed.
hef19898 3y ago
Why? Because populist have a very easy job in times of uncertainty. And uncertainty, felt but the real kind doesn't matter, we have plenty. With a lot of frustration since Covid.

by pxtail 3y ago

bradley13 3y ago

The success of the far right in Europe is driven by migration. Huge numbers of economic migrants make their way illegally to Europe. They have little education and no useful work skills. WTF are we supposed to do with them? The correct solution is to send illegal migrants right back to Africa. However, only the far right parties dare say that - hence, the increasing support they are getting, despite their other positions.

hef19898 3y ago
The latest increase in popularity of the AfD is in part due to the question of home heating devices...
polygamous_bat 3y ago
> The correct solution is to send illegal migrants right back to Africa. However, only the far right parties dare say that - hence, the increasing support they are getting, despite their other positions. In case you're unaware, the reason Europe has its current asylum standards largely because of what happened between 1933-1945. So would your proposed solution be: 1. Deny asylum to anyone and everyone, even those fleeing genocide ("Sorry that happened to you, we don't have room here!"), or 2. Implement a color chart a la Family Guy [1], so only the "right people" can come in? [1] https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/family-guy-skin-color-chart https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/family-guy-skin-color-chart
- blockmarker 3y ago
  The idea that we should allow our countries and our way of life to be ruined because of something that happened 70 years ago is absurd.

skippyboxedhero 3y ago

It is also because elections seem to have little impact on policies. This is due to many reasons but you will see polling get more and more extreme because voters keep telling politicians what they want, and nothing changes. I will add, this isn't terribly surprising in Europe. In Italy, due to flaws in their political system, you have had politicians parachuted in from the EU repeatedly to run the country...I am not sure what people expect. If you place significant limitations on democracy and then ignore public opinion, people will get annoyed.

hef19898 3y ago

Why? Because populist have a very easy job in times of uncertainty. And uncertainty, felt but the real kind doesn't matter, we have plenty. With a lot of frustration since Covid.