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Didn't read all the leaks but it seems a bit wild to conclude a vendor implemented a backdoor purposefully. There's some been found ofcourse, but simply being S

Didn't read all the leaks but it seems a bit wild to conclude a vendor implemented a backdoor purposefully. There's some been found ofcourse, but simply being SIGINT capable, why does that imply 'backdoor'.? If they have a nice exploit for the device it would also make it SIGINT capable no? without the vendor's cooperation (apart perhaps from a buggy implementation.) If you have the chip, you can find the backdoor... if you cannot find it, you can't conclude its actually there. There's ways to analyse chips to see if they are backdoored. Decapping, fuzzing and whatnot. Simply basing such of a conclusion from a few lines in a document seems a bit off to me... Did anyone actually find the thing??

Proziam 3y ago
[1] Everyone gets asked to implement backdoors in this game. This includes games companies like [2] Riot Games and the popularly recognized cases of apps like [3] TikTok and [4] Snapchat. It's also worth noting, people assume (wrongly) that only China wants access to this data, the Feds are more than happy to strong arm people via [5] NSA letters (or other means as in [3]). [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwRYyWn7BEo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwRYyWn7BEo [2] https://www.wsj.com/articles/if-you-play-videogames-china-may-be-spying-on-you-11603926979 https://www.wsj.com/articles/if-you-play-videogames-china-ma... [3] https://gizmodo.com/tiktok-cfius-draft-agreement-shows-spying-requests-1850759715 https://gizmodo.com/tiktok-cfius-draft-agreement-shows-spyin... [4] https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/30/politics/army-tiktok-banned/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/30/politics/army-tiktok-banned/i... [5] https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/19/us-tech-giants-knew-nsa-data-collection-rajesh-de https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/19/us-tech-giants...
- sim7c00 3y ago
  thanks for the background info thats some insightful reads. theres a defcon talk about chip decapping which us alsl very telling on this matter. even if they dont get asked companies also get infiltrated actively and are victimised. the difference is sometimes really hard to tell with the lacking inside info. its a weird game going on for sure. thanks

Proziam 3y ago

[1] Everyone gets asked to implement backdoors in this game. This includes games companies like [2] Riot Games and the popularly recognized cases of apps like [3] TikTok and [4] Snapchat. It's also worth noting, people assume (wrongly) that only China wants access to this data, the Feds are more than happy to strong arm people via [5] NSA letters (or other means as in [3]). [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwRYyWn7BEo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwRYyWn7BEo [2] https://www.wsj.com/articles/if-you-play-videogames-china-may-be-spying-on-you-11603926979 https://www.wsj.com/articles/if-you-play-videogames-china-ma... [3] https://gizmodo.com/tiktok-cfius-draft-agreement-shows-spying-requests-1850759715 https://gizmodo.com/tiktok-cfius-draft-agreement-shows-spyin... [4] https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/30/politics/army-tiktok-banned/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/30/politics/army-tiktok-banned/i... [5] https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/19/us-tech-giants-knew-nsa-data-collection-rajesh-de https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/19/us-tech-giants...

sim7c00 3y ago
thanks for the background info thats some insightful reads. theres a defcon talk about chip decapping which us alsl very telling on this matter. even if they dont get asked companies also get infiltrated actively and are victimised. the difference is sometimes really hard to tell with the lacking inside info. its a weird game going on for sure. thanks