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I think that Stadia had a lot of headwinds, some of them self-inflicted. My analysis of Google as an org is that it has a superiority complex, and they easily f

I think that Stadia had a lot of headwinds, some of them self-inflicted. My analysis of Google as an org is that it has a superiority complex, and they easily fool themselves into believing that all challenges will evaporate before them, and that any prior attempts failed because they weren't done by Google. This complex also leads them to believe that they are fundamentally better at doing things than other companies, and so they didn't partner with Xbox or Sony (or did they?), they simply announced that they were doing game streaming and expected everyone to rejoice. Also they overvalue the Google brand. Google getting into random verticals (remember fiber? Or their health-tech branch? Or the self-driving cars?) has a spotty past, but I'm sure that within Google they still see themselves as the golden child of the internet age. And even the name "Stadia" was terrible. Is it an artificial sweetener? Zero self-awareness, at the organizational level, IMO.

Reubend 3y ago
I think you're painting them with too broad of a brush. The documents here discuss exactly what the main problems were, so there's no need for us to speculate that a poor name or a lack of partnership from other platforms were big factors. However, I do think we can speculate about why the lack of games became so dire. In my opinion, finding a way to license Windows at some sustainable pricing level would have saved them. And perhaps partnering with Valve to develop Proton further might have been a decent option as well.
- phendrenad2 3y ago
  > The documents here discuss exactly what the main problems were, so there's no need for us to speculate Hmm, no, I prefer to not believe everything I read, thanks.
  - Reubend 3y ago
    To be skeptical is a good trait. But in this case, I trust that this exec, who has intimate knowledge of the program and the challenges it faced over its whole lifespan, knows broadly what went wrong. As discussed in the document, they did thorough market research and spent a lot of money on making this work. I too don't believe everything I read, so I will dismiss your explanation of the program's failure ("Google as an org... has a superiority complex") as a prejudiced and irrelevant assertion.
    - phendrenad2 3y ago
      This is a strange response. So we should be skeptical of people not knowing things, but not skeptical of people in general? Politicians know a lot of things, do we trust them 100% of the time..?
      - Reubend 3y ago
        We can be skeptical of a truck mechanic's opinions on quantum physics, and we can be skeptical of a physicist's opinions as well. But certainly the physicist deserves less skepticism, because they have expert knowledge on the subject (whether or not we trust them to tell us the truth).
        phendrenad2 3y ago
        Just because you can provide a worse example, doesn't mean your logic isn't also flawed.

Reubend 3y ago

I think you're painting them with too broad of a brush. The documents here discuss exactly what the main problems were, so there's no need for us to speculate that a poor name or a lack of partnership from other platforms were big factors. However, I do think we can speculate about why the lack of games became so dire. In my opinion, finding a way to license Windows at some sustainable pricing level would have saved them. And perhaps partnering with Valve to develop Proton further might have been a decent option as well.

phendrenad2 3y ago
> The documents here discuss exactly what the main problems were, so there's no need for us to speculate Hmm, no, I prefer to not believe everything I read, thanks.
- Reubend 3y ago
  To be skeptical is a good trait. But in this case, I trust that this exec, who has intimate knowledge of the program and the challenges it faced over its whole lifespan, knows broadly what went wrong. As discussed in the document, they did thorough market research and spent a lot of money on making this work. I too don't believe everything I read, so I will dismiss your explanation of the program's failure ("Google as an org... has a superiority complex") as a prejudiced and irrelevant assertion.
  - phendrenad2 3y ago
    This is a strange response. So we should be skeptical of people not knowing things, but not skeptical of people in general? Politicians know a lot of things, do we trust them 100% of the time..?
    - Reubend 3y ago
      We can be skeptical of a truck mechanic's opinions on quantum physics, and we can be skeptical of a physicist's opinions as well. But certainly the physicist deserves less skepticism, because they have expert knowledge on the subject (whether or not we trust them to tell us the truth).
      - phendrenad2 3y ago
        Just because you can provide a worse example, doesn't mean your logic isn't also flawed.