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> The international group of scientists that conducted the research, which draws from 2,000 studies Seems like they based it off of enough studies.

tourmalinetaco 3y ago
There is no such thing as “enough” studies, more data is always needed to support a claim. Which is all this is, a theoretical boundary decided using studies, not some intrinsic law of reality. That’s not even going into whether those are quality studies or not.
- Nevermark 3y ago
  "Enough" depends on the purpose, right? Are there enough studies to credibly worry? Seems fair to say there is. Are there enough studies to stop further study? Not a chance, as you say. But the rewards are likely to be clarity of details, not reversals of concerns.
  - tourmalinetaco 3y ago
    > Are there enough studies to credibly worry? Maybe, if the studies are accurate. And considering the recent headlines calling into question the accuracy of studies, the reality of mass-produced studies, and the general faults of the peer-reviewed system, I’m willing to say it’s a good chance most of them aren’t. Assuming, however, that they all are the most damning studies to ever grace mankind, I have no need to worry. I have only so much ability to alter the course we’ve been put on. As do most people. Until the day we eviscerate our corporate & political overlords and institute ecological safety nets, there is nothing we as a group can do to offset the damage that governments and corporations have done to the planet.
    - Nevermark 3y ago
      So if the studies are each compromised in various ways, carry on, no worries. If the studies are ground truth, only to be reconfirmed again and again, carry on, no worries. Well, you have a resilient plan! We do seem to be waiting for a critical mass of pain to motivate a sustained and researched response. I am having trouble visualizing what could possibly do that. Enough pain to reach the rich, presumably. Or not. I hear private jets have fabulous climate control.
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tourmalinetaco 3y ago

There is no such thing as “enough” studies, more data is always needed to support a claim. Which is all this is, a theoretical boundary decided using studies, not some intrinsic law of reality. That’s not even going into whether those are quality studies or not.

Nevermark 3y ago
"Enough" depends on the purpose, right? Are there enough studies to credibly worry? Seems fair to say there is. Are there enough studies to stop further study? Not a chance, as you say. But the rewards are likely to be clarity of details, not reversals of concerns.
- tourmalinetaco 3y ago
  > Are there enough studies to credibly worry? Maybe, if the studies are accurate. And considering the recent headlines calling into question the accuracy of studies, the reality of mass-produced studies, and the general faults of the peer-reviewed system, I’m willing to say it’s a good chance most of them aren’t. Assuming, however, that they all are the most damning studies to ever grace mankind, I have no need to worry. I have only so much ability to alter the course we’ve been put on. As do most people. Until the day we eviscerate our corporate & political overlords and institute ecological safety nets, there is nothing we as a group can do to offset the damage that governments and corporations have done to the planet.
  - Nevermark 3y ago
    So if the studies are each compromised in various ways, carry on, no worries. If the studies are ground truth, only to be reconfirmed again and again, carry on, no worries. Well, you have a resilient plan! We do seem to be waiting for a critical mass of pain to motivate a sustained and researched response. I am having trouble visualizing what could possibly do that. Enough pain to reach the rich, presumably. Or not. I hear private jets have fabulous climate control.
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