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and unfortunately, EV's are worse than ICE cars of similar size, because of the extra weight - so they can go thru tires 30% faster. "Increased tire wear can a
by ejb999 3y ago
and unfortunately, EV's are worse than ICE cars of similar size, because of the extra weight - so they can go thru tires 30% faster.
"Increased tire wear can also contribute to air quality issues. In Oslo, Norway, where electric vehicles make two-thirds of registered vehicles but a higher proportion of traffic, the "air has unhealthy levels of microscopic particles generated partly by the abrasion of tires and asphalt," The New York Times reports."
from here:
https://www.pcmag.com/news/the-unexpected-problem-with-evs-they-tire-quickly https://www.pcmag.com/news/the-unexpected-problem-with-evs-t...
- lowbloodsugar 3y agoHere we go. Funny how we are just learning this now! And EVs are the problem. Not the giant SUVs and trucks!
- ejb999 3y agothey are both a problem, but if you buy a 'small' EV and it weighs as much or more as a bigger ICE, the EV contributes more of this type of pollution.
- sp332 3y agoThe Tesla Model 3 "Standard Range Plus" weighs less than the lightest Ford F150 trim. (3,600 pounds vs 4,000)
- Freedom2 3y agoThat doesn't seem likely, F150s are built to be light and agile, as well as environmental friendly.
- firecall 3y agoWe would be wise to be sceptical of all these EV tyre pollution reports coming out. At best it’s clickbate reporting, and at worst it’s a biased agenda anti EV campaign. Maybe like for like the weight of a vehicle of a given size contributes to increased tyre wear, but you can’t argue that generally vehicles are so large that we need further analysis of the overall impact etc…. The number Dual Cab Utes on the school run around us is just bonkers.
- timeon 3y agoThe elephant in the room is that the actual problem are cars.
- Gibbon1 3y agoYeah that's my thought. EV's are better than cars but they are still cars. The big elephant in the room for me is people having to drive long distances to work because the companies managers all want to live near each other. We could put policies into place to put workplaces closer to where people live at the expense of managers. Or we can keep doing what we do now which is blame workers for commuting. AKA Hector works as a maintenance tech, commutes from Vallejo to Mountain View. Drives 30,000 miles a year. Hector is the problem. Kieth is the VP of sales. He bicycles to work from Cupertino. Good job Kieth.
- hankman86 3y agoThen again, EVs often use regenerative breaking (“one pedal driving”). I have made it a habit to engage this as often as possible, avoiding to use the brakes. I wonder if this results in fewer sharp stops and is easier on the tyres. What car owners (EV or otherwise) can do to relieve their conscience is to use tyres with the smallest possible dimensions. This should reduce the amount of particle emissions from tyre abrasions. As a plus, smaller tyres are also cheaper, lighter and increase the range. The principal problem of hazardous chemicals in tyres and non-degradable micro abrasions appears solvable to me. Probably comes down to regulatory intervention and cost and not so much to an insurmountable chemistry challenge.
- haileys 3y ago> What car owners (EV or otherwise) can do to relieve their conscience is to use tyres with the smallest possible dimensions Even better would be to drive the car less and use an e-bike for most trips instead. Most bike tyres weigh less in total than the annual emissions of a set of car tyres according to the article.
- kazinator 3y agoIf you want your shit actually not to smell, you better make it a pedal-powered bike. With those German-made Continentals made of dandelion root, I hasten to add. (See article.)
- paulryanrogers 3y agoProgress can also be made in small steps
- Gud 3y agoWe don’t have to back to the stone ages. Moving a 20 kilo vehicle is obviously a huge improvement to moving a 1-2t vehicle.
- seoulmetro 3y agoEven better, don't have kids. The "even better" argument is pretty bad for 9/10 people. Cars are great pieces of technology, the same way air conditioners are great. You just made a suggestion akin to fridge usage and instead opting to just eat room temperature food.
- kazinator 3y agoThere is usually more hydrocarbon mass in one tankful of gas than all four tires. The tankful of gas might last 500 km; tires 100,000 km.
- ZeroGravitas 3y agoI'd like to see this normalised for internal capacity rather than external size. The layout of EVs mean they are usually 1 step up in terms of usable space e.g. quote from random car review: > Those dimensions continue to place the model between VW's Polo and Golf in overall length, although the longer wheelbase allowed by the MEB architecture means that the interior space is actually closer to that of a Passat. So the weight of a car you can comfortably fit a family of 5 into would be comparing apples with apples, not the weight of two cars with similar outward dimensions.