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> It seems like 99.9% of humans being useless mouths to feed is not a concern for x-risk folks so long as the 0.1% are still around. This is one of those obse

by gensym 3y ago

> It seems like 99.9% of humans being useless mouths to feed is not a concern for x-risk folks so long as the 0.1% are still around. This is one of those observations, that once you make it, you see stamped _all over_ the x-risker writings. Those folks are absolutely convinced they they and their loved ones will be part of the remaining 0.1%. (And some are pretty bad at hiding that they're actually looking forward to not having to deal with the other 99.9).

hollerith 3y ago
Not everything is society is about class warfare or about elites betraying non-elites. If an asteroid was hurtling towards Earth, we'd genuinely all be in the same boat: either we are all going to die as the Earth's atmosphere reaches 400 degree Fahrenheit worldwide (or is simply flung into space) or we are all going to live after we successfully deflect the asteroid. Yes, AI research has important class-warfare-type consequences, but it also has quite important Earth-killing-asteroid-type consequences, and it annoys me how often a conversation about the latter consequences on this site gets derailed into a conversation about the former consequences. Why can't you let us have a conversation about AI extinction risk on this site once in a while?
- gensym 3y ago
  > Not everything is society is about class warfare or about elites betraying non-elites. No, but this is. Sam Altman has publicly stated that he has "guns, gold, potassium iodide, antibiotics, batteries, water, gas masks from the Israeli Defense Force, and a big patch of land in Big Sur I can fly to.” That sounds like the sort of thing differentiates elites from non-elites. (And the purpose of the guns? I'm pretty sure it's not to shoot robots or viruses). > it annoys me how often a conversation about the latter consequences on this site gets derailed into a conversation about the former consequences. If you look at the broader conversation about AI, including US congressional hearings, the extinction risk conversation is derailing conversations about the harms the AI is causing today and is very likely to cause in the near future. > Why can't you let us have a conversation about AI extinction risk on this site once in a while? No one is stopping you.

by gensym 3y ago

hollerith 3y ago

Not everything is society is about class warfare or about elites betraying non-elites. If an asteroid was hurtling towards Earth, we'd genuinely all be in the same boat: either we are all going to die as the Earth's atmosphere reaches 400 degree Fahrenheit worldwide (or is simply flung into space) or we are all going to live after we successfully deflect the asteroid. Yes, AI research has important class-warfare-type consequences, but it also has quite important Earth-killing-asteroid-type consequences, and it annoys me how often a conversation about the latter consequences on this site gets derailed into a conversation about the former consequences. Why can't you let us have a conversation about AI extinction risk on this site once in a while?

gensym 3y ago
> Not everything is society is about class warfare or about elites betraying non-elites. No, but this is. Sam Altman has publicly stated that he has "guns, gold, potassium iodide, antibiotics, batteries, water, gas masks from the Israeli Defense Force, and a big patch of land in Big Sur I can fly to.” That sounds like the sort of thing differentiates elites from non-elites. (And the purpose of the guns? I'm pretty sure it's not to shoot robots or viruses). > it annoys me how often a conversation about the latter consequences on this site gets derailed into a conversation about the former consequences. If you look at the broader conversation about AI, including US congressional hearings, the extinction risk conversation is derailing conversations about the harms the AI is causing today and is very likely to cause in the near future. > Why can't you let us have a conversation about AI extinction risk on this site once in a while? No one is stopping you.