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It's being done, actually... have you heard about the climate crisis? /S-not-s.

by adr1an 3y ago

andrewstuart 3y ago
Humanity will not be entirely wiped out by climate crisis though I feel sad for whatever humans are left. Don’t confuse massive impact with total wipeout.
pedalpete 3y ago
Your initial assumption is correct, and I don't want to belittle the climate crisis, but I doubt it will make the planet completely uninhabitable - WE STILL NEED TO TAKE ACTION. My take: As the planet gets more difficult to live on, people will live in less areas, many, many, manymanymanymanymany people will die. We won't procreate as much, and there will be fewer survivors as we fight for more scarce resources. During this time, we'll have less impact on the environment. The planet will recovery as our influence on it decreases. Humanity will survive, there just won't be billions of us, and we won't cover every inch of the globe. Honestly, that's probably alright. Why is more people automatically better. But you're right. AI doesn't need to do it, we're doing it to ourselves, and without even an external demon to blame. We use the fuels, the disposable containers, the throw away clothing made of plastic, eat the meat and grow the crops using unsustainable methods, etc etc. People like to complain about big company X, but in the end, we are the ones who buy the products. We have nobody else to blame but ourselves.
- water-your-self 3y ago
  Poor people will likely die Or at least, choose to not have children if they can. This is already happening
JohnMakin 3y ago
Had to stop reading when the OP mentioned "climate pessimists" especially after the last few years of events we've had. We're barreling towards 3C with very little to no mitigation in sight. Today's "well it isn't as bad as we predicted 10 years ago" (it's actually worse) was yesterday's "well fine but humans aren't impacting the climate" and before that was "the climate isn't changing," and I don't know if this author falls into that umbrella, but it did not make me interested to read more.

It's being done, actually... have you heard about the climate crisis? /S-not-s.

by adr1an 3y ago

It's being done, actually... have you heard about the climate crisis? /S-not-s.

Humanity will not be entirely wiped out by climate crisis though I feel sad for whatever humans are left. Don’t confuse massive impact with total wipeout.

pedalpete 3y ago

Your initial assumption is correct, and I don't want to belittle the climate crisis, but I doubt it will make the planet completely uninhabitable - WE STILL NEED TO TAKE ACTION. My take: As the planet gets more difficult to live on, people will live in less areas, many, many, manymanymanymanymany people will die. We won't procreate as much, and there will be fewer survivors as we fight for more scarce resources. During this time, we'll have less impact on the environment. The planet will recovery as our influence on it decreases. Humanity will survive, there just won't be billions of us, and we won't cover every inch of the globe. Honestly, that's probably alright. Why is more people automatically better. But you're right. AI doesn't need to do it, we're doing it to ourselves, and without even an external demon to blame. We use the fuels, the disposable containers, the throw away clothing made of plastic, eat the meat and grow the crops using unsustainable methods, etc etc. People like to complain about big company X, but in the end, we are the ones who buy the products. We have nobody else to blame but ourselves.

water-your-self 3y ago
Poor people will likely die Or at least, choose to not have children if they can. This is already happening

JohnMakin 3y ago

Had to stop reading when the OP mentioned "climate pessimists" especially after the last few years of events we've had. We're barreling towards 3C with very little to no mitigation in sight. Today's "well it isn't as bad as we predicted 10 years ago" (it's actually worse) was yesterday's "well fine but humans aren't impacting the climate" and before that was "the climate isn't changing," and I don't know if this author falls into that umbrella, but it did not make me interested to read more.