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that's a terrible alternative, the helmet has enough horsepower to run anything a Mac can run this will be so annoyingly fiddly to set up, nobody is going to u

by drcode 3y ago

that's a terrible alternative, the helmet has enough horsepower to run anything a Mac can run this will be so annoyingly fiddly to set up, nobody is going to use it on a regular basis why would somebody buy a "pro" device that only lets them VNC into their laptop?

moron4hire 3y ago
Not if you're programming your apps in Unity :P
kaliqt 3y ago
People would buy it because Apple. I sincerely hope Apple isn't this dumb though. Luckily LG and Meta and Samsung and Google are not playing around and will force Apple's hand with the AVP or overtake Apple entirely.
- drcode 3y ago
  Oh I agree that if headsets see any success in the next 5 years (I have my doubts after having owned and used many myself) then Apple will always be the "walled garden" alternative and capture a certain percentage of the market. But I think the "log into your laptop" feature they are pushing is not going to be a good experience, and is likely a feature they will never promote and will not invest any development effort into, after the initial launch.
CharlesW 3y ago
> that's a terrible alternative, the helmet has enough horsepower to run anything a Mac can run The SimulaVR can't even run Office natively, right? The hobbyists who purchase it will need to use LibreOffice or run Office until emulation, correct? In contrast, Vision Pro users will be able to run Microsoft Office natively, with an interface optimized for the device. Where we don't disagree: For you and other folks who need a literal desktop (nosetop?) PC, SimulaVR is clearly the answer.
- drcode 3y ago
  I know Microsoft Office was a big deal in 1998, but I don't think in 2023 as many people are clamoring for it anymore as you think they are.
  - gamblor956 3y ago
    Office is still huge in business and academia.
robotresearcher 3y ago
> this will be so annoyingly fiddly to set up In the WWDC demo video, setting it up went like this: Look at your Mac, and its desktop pops up in a new AR window.
- drcode 3y ago
  Marketing video makes thing look easy TUNE IN FOR OUR FULL REPORT TONIGHT AT 11

by drcode 3y ago

moron4hire 3y ago

Not if you're programming your apps in Unity :P

kaliqt 3y ago

People would buy it because Apple. I sincerely hope Apple isn't this dumb though. Luckily LG and Meta and Samsung and Google are not playing around and will force Apple's hand with the AVP or overtake Apple entirely.

drcode 3y ago
Oh I agree that if headsets see any success in the next 5 years (I have my doubts after having owned and used many myself) then Apple will always be the "walled garden" alternative and capture a certain percentage of the market. But I think the "log into your laptop" feature they are pushing is not going to be a good experience, and is likely a feature they will never promote and will not invest any development effort into, after the initial launch.

CharlesW 3y ago

> that's a terrible alternative, the helmet has enough horsepower to run anything a Mac can run The SimulaVR can't even run Office natively, right? The hobbyists who purchase it will need to use LibreOffice or run Office until emulation, correct? In contrast, Vision Pro users will be able to run Microsoft Office natively, with an interface optimized for the device. Where we don't disagree: For you and other folks who need a literal desktop (nosetop?) PC, SimulaVR is clearly the answer.

drcode 3y ago
I know Microsoft Office was a big deal in 1998, but I don't think in 2023 as many people are clamoring for it anymore as you think they are.
- gamblor956 3y ago
  Office is still huge in business and academia.

robotresearcher 3y ago

> this will be so annoyingly fiddly to set up In the WWDC demo video, setting it up went like this: Look at your Mac, and its desktop pops up in a new AR window.

drcode 3y ago
Marketing video makes thing look easy TUNE IN FOR OUR FULL REPORT TONIGHT AT 11