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This is actually an interesting argument for "why is Nintendo so protective when Sega and Microsoft show you don't have to?" Nintendo lives and dies by their m

This is actually an interesting argument for "why is Nintendo so protective when Sega and Microsoft show you don't have to?" Nintendo lives and dies by their mainline characters. Sega doesn't anymore and merged with Sammy Group after their failures with Saturn and Dreamcast; and Sega of Japan really didn't like Sonic the Hedgehog as a character that much - as evidenced by how much less popular he is in Japan than America. Microsoft could lose every major Xbox franchise and have it only be, what, ~10%-20% on their stock reports as a whole company? Whereas, if Nintendo lost Mario, the blow would be catastrophic. Just ask Sega - they lost over 200 Sonic the Hedgehog characters due to legal mistakes (Ken Penders incident).

parl_match 3y ago
>Whereas, if Nintendo lost Mario, the blow would be catastrophic. Honestly, I don't the loss of Mario would be catastrophic. What would be is _how_ they "lost" Mario - presumably through bad games and other properties.
- hot_gril 3y ago
  At least they survived the CD-i Mario + Zelda games and the, uh, not-so-classic TV shows based on both franchises.
RajT88 3y ago
> Microsoft could lose every major Xbox franchise and have it only be, what, ~10%-20% on their stock reports as a whole company? Less than even that probably, since you're not talking about Xbox revenue as a whole, just the first party IP. 25% of Microsoft's revenue right now comes from a huge bucket of items: > Windows commercial and cloud products, Windows OEM, Surface, search and advertising, and Xbox First party IP (including their game studios like Bethesda, not just Xbox studios) probably puts you in the single digits for revenue for the company. > Whereas, if Nintendo lost Mario, the blow would be catastrophic. Completely agree. Nintendo's ecosystem is such that Mario and Zelda sell hardware, which then they get licensing fees from third party titles that people are buying, because they want more than just Mario and Zelda.
rideontime 3y ago
I doubt Sega cares about any Ken Penders characters.
cush 3y ago
> Nintendo lives and dies by their mainline characters Exactly. They’re opening a Super Nintendo theme park at Universal Studios soon and it looks exactly like what you’d expect a Nintendo theme park to look like. Now close your eyes and imagine what an Xbox theme park would have… all I can think of is maybe Master Chief? Whatever it is, it sounds boring comparatively. The Xbox brand is more hardcore-gamer-hardware… not the Xbox Universe of characters and worlds that Nintendo has built over the last 40 years. For Nintendo to shift those characters and worlds onto other hardware would completely devalue their brand
- Hikikomori 3y ago
  Snes in universal Osaka har been open for a while. Does look very much like you would expect.

parl_match 3y ago

>Whereas, if Nintendo lost Mario, the blow would be catastrophic. Honestly, I don't the loss of Mario would be catastrophic. What would be is _how_ they "lost" Mario - presumably through bad games and other properties.

hot_gril 3y ago
At least they survived the CD-i Mario + Zelda games and the, uh, not-so-classic TV shows based on both franchises.

RajT88 3y ago

> Microsoft could lose every major Xbox franchise and have it only be, what, ~10%-20% on their stock reports as a whole company? Less than even that probably, since you're not talking about Xbox revenue as a whole, just the first party IP. 25% of Microsoft's revenue right now comes from a huge bucket of items: > Windows commercial and cloud products, Windows OEM, Surface, search and advertising, and Xbox First party IP (including their game studios like Bethesda, not just Xbox studios) probably puts you in the single digits for revenue for the company. > Whereas, if Nintendo lost Mario, the blow would be catastrophic. Completely agree. Nintendo's ecosystem is such that Mario and Zelda sell hardware, which then they get licensing fees from third party titles that people are buying, because they want more than just Mario and Zelda.

rideontime 3y ago

I doubt Sega cares about any Ken Penders characters.

cush 3y ago

> Nintendo lives and dies by their mainline characters Exactly. They’re opening a Super Nintendo theme park at Universal Studios soon and it looks exactly like what you’d expect a Nintendo theme park to look like. Now close your eyes and imagine what an Xbox theme park would have… all I can think of is maybe Master Chief? Whatever it is, it sounds boring comparatively. The Xbox brand is more hardcore-gamer-hardware… not the Xbox Universe of characters and worlds that Nintendo has built over the last 40 years. For Nintendo to shift those characters and worlds onto other hardware would completely devalue their brand

Hikikomori 3y ago
Snes in universal Osaka har been open for a while. Does look very much like you would expect.