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So queer people should remain celibate? Other methods of protection fail. People lie about the status. People don't know their status. Know what's ridiculous

So queer people should remain celibate? Other methods of protection fail. People lie about the status. People don't know their status. Know what's ridiculous is that these drugs cost so much money and companies like Gilead can engage in "revenue maximization" schemes at the cost of the health of US citizens... and then apparently win lawsuits with their Big Pharma war chests.

cltby 3y ago
There's wide, wide middle ground between celibacy and the debauched status quo.
- diogenes4 3y ago
  And where in that middle ground are you trying to insert yourself?
- local_crmdgeon 3y ago
  I don't think that attending "100% bareback, no loads denied" orgies regularly is a good idea, yet a bunch of my queer friends do exactly that on a fairly regular basis. I know it's not popular, but AIDS is just what we have now. If people continue living like this, there will be another, and it might be worse. Hell, we probably already dodged a bullet with Monkeypox due to concomitant COVID precautions.
  - 535188B17C93743 3y ago
    Lol, no one was observing COVID precautions at that point. It was dodged because people got vaccinated for it and observed spacing requested in a responsible manner. Hell, in the UK heterosexual cases of AIDs overtook homosexual cases because of adherence to medication and good practice. [1] 1. https://www.tht.org.uk/news/heterosexual-hiv-diagnoses-overtake-those-gay-men-first-time-decade https://www.tht.org.uk/news/heterosexual-hiv-diagnoses-overt...
fjgvcjygjvh 3y ago
If the 30k per figure was accurate (I don't think it is?) it would be certainly unreasonable for the rest of the society to subsidize it. So I guess, no. But they shouldn't expect other people to finance their sex lives.
- elil17 3y ago
  The options aren't shell out $30k/year or let people get AIDs. There's a missing third option: don't let drug companies charge so much money, especially when the government paid for the development of the drug!

cltby 3y ago

There's wide, wide middle ground between celibacy and the debauched status quo.

diogenes4 3y ago
And where in that middle ground are you trying to insert yourself?
local_crmdgeon 3y ago
I don't think that attending "100% bareback, no loads denied" orgies regularly is a good idea, yet a bunch of my queer friends do exactly that on a fairly regular basis. I know it's not popular, but AIDS is just what we have now. If people continue living like this, there will be another, and it might be worse. Hell, we probably already dodged a bullet with Monkeypox due to concomitant COVID precautions.
- 535188B17C93743 3y ago
  Lol, no one was observing COVID precautions at that point. It was dodged because people got vaccinated for it and observed spacing requested in a responsible manner. Hell, in the UK heterosexual cases of AIDs overtook homosexual cases because of adherence to medication and good practice. [1] 1. https://www.tht.org.uk/news/heterosexual-hiv-diagnoses-overtake-those-gay-men-first-time-decade https://www.tht.org.uk/news/heterosexual-hiv-diagnoses-overt...

fjgvcjygjvh 3y ago

If the 30k per figure was accurate (I don't think it is?) it would be certainly unreasonable for the rest of the society to subsidize it. So I guess, no. But they shouldn't expect other people to finance their sex lives.

elil17 3y ago
The options aren't shell out $30k/year or let people get AIDs. There's a missing third option: don't let drug companies charge so much money, especially when the government paid for the development of the drug!