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> The Prime Minister of Canada just did a state visit to India, where he was not warmly received, and made to look foolish on the world stage. So, he has his ow

> The Prime Minister of Canada just did a state visit to India, where he was not warmly received, and made to look foolish on the world stage. So, he has his own political calculations in this affair, and is far from an objective arbiter of truth. This is a very bold claim.

ta8645 3y ago
> This is a very bold claim. I don't think so. The state visit, and the bad PR it brought to the Canadian PM is well-reported publically. And the idea that a PM makes political calculations, which don't hold truth as more important than all other factors, wouldn't be controversial to most political observers.
yumraj 3y ago
> This is a very bold claim. So is blaming this killing on India. No evidence has been presented. This was probably nothing but gang rivalry. Indo-Canadian organized crime or Punjabi-Canadian organized crime is made up predominantly of young adults and teenagers of Punjabi ethnic, cultural and linguistic background, typically ethnic Jatt’s. [0] [0] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-Canadian_organized_crime https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-Canadian_organized_crim...
- mthoms 3y ago
  This is overt racism.
  - yumraj 3y ago
    Excuse me.. Really? How? Pray tell. Read the Wikipedia link. There has been known and established link between Khalistani elements in Canada and Punjabi/Sikh organized crime.
    - mthoms 3y ago
      Blaming it on criminal ties simply because the ethnicity of the victim? Are you serious? When is that okay? And for your information, I live in Vancouver. I'm aware of the organized crime issue here. But not every Sikh is a terrorist or criminal (I can't believe I have to say that). Suggesting they are criminally involved just because of their race is textbook racism.
      - yumraj 3y ago
        > Blaming it on criminal ties simply because the ethnicity of the victim? … > But not every Sikh is a terrorist or criminal Now you’re just making things up. Where in my comment did I say that every Sikh is a terrorist or criminal or I’m blaming criminal ties due to his ethnicity? Please point me to that. I was referring to him being a Khalistani and I did point you to the fact that Khalistanis have ties with organized crime. There’s shit ton of evidence related to that. For the record, I’m sure I know more Sikhs than you, have since childhood and none of them is a Khalistani nor a criminal.
        mthoms 3y ago
        Here's what you said: >This was probably nothing but gang rivalry. >>Indo-Canadian organized crime or Punjabi-Canadian organized crime is made up predominantly of young adults and teenagers of Punjabi ethnic, cultural and linguistic background, typically ethnic Jatt’s. [0] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-Canadian_organized_crim https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-Canadian_organized_crim... Since you purposefully pulled a quotation from the wiki article about ethnicity, it seems pretty obvious to me you are linking his ethnicity to organized crime. Right? Am I crazy? You brought up his ethnicity. You did that. If you meant to say Khalistanis have ties to organized crime then you should have said that. But, you didn't. Anyways, now that you've corrected (or backtracked) to say Khalistanis have ties with organized crime, I acknowledge your correction. Though, I still don't follow the logic of "Khalistanis have ties with organized crime" therefore, this is "probably" organized crime but this has gone on long enough. FYI, I'm not going to read your reply.

ta8645 3y ago

> This is a very bold claim. I don't think so. The state visit, and the bad PR it brought to the Canadian PM is well-reported publically. And the idea that a PM makes political calculations, which don't hold truth as more important than all other factors, wouldn't be controversial to most political observers.

yumraj 3y ago

> This is a very bold claim. So is blaming this killing on India. No evidence has been presented. This was probably nothing but gang rivalry. Indo-Canadian organized crime or Punjabi-Canadian organized crime is made up predominantly of young adults and teenagers of Punjabi ethnic, cultural and linguistic background, typically ethnic Jatt’s. [0] [0] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-Canadian_organized_crime https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-Canadian_organized_crim...

mthoms 3y ago
This is overt racism.
- yumraj 3y ago
  Excuse me.. Really? How? Pray tell. Read the Wikipedia link. There has been known and established link between Khalistani elements in Canada and Punjabi/Sikh organized crime.
  - mthoms 3y ago
    Blaming it on criminal ties simply because the ethnicity of the victim? Are you serious? When is that okay? And for your information, I live in Vancouver. I'm aware of the organized crime issue here. But not every Sikh is a terrorist or criminal (I can't believe I have to say that). Suggesting they are criminally involved just because of their race is textbook racism.
    - yumraj 3y ago
      > Blaming it on criminal ties simply because the ethnicity of the victim? … > But not every Sikh is a terrorist or criminal Now you’re just making things up. Where in my comment did I say that every Sikh is a terrorist or criminal or I’m blaming criminal ties due to his ethnicity? Please point me to that. I was referring to him being a Khalistani and I did point you to the fact that Khalistanis have ties with organized crime. There’s shit ton of evidence related to that. For the record, I’m sure I know more Sikhs than you, have since childhood and none of them is a Khalistani nor a criminal.
      - mthoms 3y ago
        Here's what you said: >This was probably nothing but gang rivalry. >>Indo-Canadian organized crime or Punjabi-Canadian organized crime is made up predominantly of young adults and teenagers of Punjabi ethnic, cultural and linguistic background, typically ethnic Jatt’s. [0] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-Canadian_organized_crim https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-Canadian_organized_crim... Since you purposefully pulled a quotation from the wiki article about ethnicity, it seems pretty obvious to me you are linking his ethnicity to organized crime. Right? Am I crazy? You brought up his ethnicity. You did that. If you meant to say Khalistanis have ties to organized crime then you should have said that. But, you didn't. Anyways, now that you've corrected (or backtracked) to say Khalistanis have ties with organized crime, I acknowledge your correction. Though, I still don't follow the logic of "Khalistanis have ties with organized crime" therefore, this is "probably" organized crime but this has gone on long enough. FYI, I'm not going to read your reply.