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Yes, it's actually made phone theft even worse as a victim. instead of running with the device muggers are demanding pin's and passcodes at gun/knife point it'

Yes, it's actually made phone theft even worse as a victim. instead of running with the device muggers are demanding pin's and passcodes at gun/knife point it's resulted in a few deaths in chicago at least

ghostpepper 3y ago
Got a source on this? Quick google search for "Chicago death iPhone mugging" did not turn up anything about robbers specifically asking for PIN codes, or killing someone for not providing it.
- bearchicago1 3y ago
  Dakota Earley age 23 was viciously attacked and shot 3 times and barely survived. all caught on video and you can hear the thieves demanding the passcode. https://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/news/family-of-dakotah-earley-man-shot-during-robbery-in-lincoln-park-gives-update-to-his-condition/ https://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/news/family-of-dakotah-earle... and before you dismiss it given the time of day or one off, armed robberies for cell phones are way up in chicago and they are occurring in broad daylight . the crime that keeps getting covered and that I know someone who this happened to is, 1 -2 people walking on the street, a car pulls up with 4 people . they all get out and have guns and force you to give up your phone and passcode. Armed Robberies are way up 44% 7978 cases and they are all for iPhones and passcodes . people are getting pistol whipped when they don't cooperate and increasingly even when they do. https://cwbchicago.com/2023/09/chicago-at-least-14-robbed-violent-crime-spree-north-side-downtown.html https://cwbchicago.com/2023/09/chicago-at-least-14-robbed-vi... https://cwbchicago.com/2023/09/north-side-chicago-robbery-spree-depaul-university-student-lincoln-park.html https://cwbchicago.com/2023/09/north-side-chicago-robbery-sp... https://cwbchicago.com/2023/09/4-more-depaul-students-were-mugged-overnight-one-was-battered-another-pistol-whipped.html https://cwbchicago.com/2023/09/4-more-depaul-students-were-m...
- sattoshi 3y ago
  > killing someone for not providing it They wouldn’t live to tell the tale
  - bearchicago1 3y ago
    but a ring camera can. see video of Dakota earley. shot 3 times. for initially refusing to give up his passcode. he survived after 3 surgeries. https://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/news/family-of-dakotah-earley-man-shot-during-robbery-in-lincoln-park-gives-update-to-his-condition/ https://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/news/family-of-dakotah-earle...
fortran77 3y ago
See this story: https://www.nbcnews.com/nbc-out/out-news/patrons-nyc-gay-bar-incapacitated-robbed-thousands-facial-recognition-rcna68842 https://www.nbcnews.com/nbc-out/out-news/patrons-nyc-gay-bar...
- lotsofpulp 3y ago
  Hence why you should not use bank/brokerage websites or apps on phone other than maybe a checking account with a small amount of money in it.
  - fortran77 3y ago
    Yes! On my travel checklist I have "REMOVE BROKERAGE APPS FROM PHONE"
    - lotsofpulp 3y ago
      Unless you are a day trader, I do not see a reason to ever have them on your phone.
      - fortran77 3y ago
        You're probably right. I rebalance my account 4 times/year. I'm thinking it may be best to have one "secure PC" that I do my balancing on, and even remove the passwords from my password manager.
  - dylan604 3y ago
    for paypal, i only ever use a login through the website on the rare occasions i have to use it. for other apps like cashapp/venmo, do they even have a non-app method of using them?
    - lotsofpulp 3y ago
      For those, I would only connect them to a bank account with a relatively small amount of money in it.

ghostpepper 3y ago

Got a source on this? Quick google search for "Chicago death iPhone mugging" did not turn up anything about robbers specifically asking for PIN codes, or killing someone for not providing it.

bearchicago1 3y ago
Dakota Earley age 23 was viciously attacked and shot 3 times and barely survived. all caught on video and you can hear the thieves demanding the passcode. https://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/news/family-of-dakotah-earley-man-shot-during-robbery-in-lincoln-park-gives-update-to-his-condition/ https://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/news/family-of-dakotah-earle... and before you dismiss it given the time of day or one off, armed robberies for cell phones are way up in chicago and they are occurring in broad daylight . the crime that keeps getting covered and that I know someone who this happened to is, 1 -2 people walking on the street, a car pulls up with 4 people . they all get out and have guns and force you to give up your phone and passcode. Armed Robberies are way up 44% 7978 cases and they are all for iPhones and passcodes . people are getting pistol whipped when they don't cooperate and increasingly even when they do. https://cwbchicago.com/2023/09/chicago-at-least-14-robbed-violent-crime-spree-north-side-downtown.html https://cwbchicago.com/2023/09/chicago-at-least-14-robbed-vi... https://cwbchicago.com/2023/09/north-side-chicago-robbery-spree-depaul-university-student-lincoln-park.html https://cwbchicago.com/2023/09/north-side-chicago-robbery-sp... https://cwbchicago.com/2023/09/4-more-depaul-students-were-mugged-overnight-one-was-battered-another-pistol-whipped.html https://cwbchicago.com/2023/09/4-more-depaul-students-were-m...
sattoshi 3y ago
> killing someone for not providing it They wouldn’t live to tell the tale
- bearchicago1 3y ago
  but a ring camera can. see video of Dakota earley. shot 3 times. for initially refusing to give up his passcode. he survived after 3 surgeries. https://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/news/family-of-dakotah-earley-man-shot-during-robbery-in-lincoln-park-gives-update-to-his-condition/ https://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/news/family-of-dakotah-earle...

fortran77 3y ago

See this story: https://www.nbcnews.com/nbc-out/out-news/patrons-nyc-gay-bar-incapacitated-robbed-thousands-facial-recognition-rcna68842 https://www.nbcnews.com/nbc-out/out-news/patrons-nyc-gay-bar...

lotsofpulp 3y ago
Hence why you should not use bank/brokerage websites or apps on phone other than maybe a checking account with a small amount of money in it.
- fortran77 3y ago
  Yes! On my travel checklist I have "REMOVE BROKERAGE APPS FROM PHONE"
  - lotsofpulp 3y ago
    Unless you are a day trader, I do not see a reason to ever have them on your phone.
    - fortran77 3y ago
      You're probably right. I rebalance my account 4 times/year. I'm thinking it may be best to have one "secure PC" that I do my balancing on, and even remove the passwords from my password manager.
- dylan604 3y ago
  for paypal, i only ever use a login through the website on the rare occasions i have to use it. for other apps like cashapp/venmo, do they even have a non-app method of using them?
  - lotsofpulp 3y ago
    For those, I would only connect them to a bank account with a relatively small amount of money in it.