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Actually NOT blocking ads is at the very least morally evil and degenerate. You are a very bad person if you think adverts are morally justifiable in any form.

paulryanrogers 3y ago
Thinking differently makes me a bad person. That's not a very convincing premise.
- 93po 3y ago
  Being thoughtless and pushing thoughtless or poorly examined morals onto others is a harmful action.
  - paulryanrogers 3y ago
    By what logic am I being thoughtless and in possession poorly examined morals? Is expressing a different opinion "pushing morals"? So many accusations here. Apparently I'm subhuman, a bad person, and of low moral character. All because I think the exchange of ad impressions for otherwise free access to content is a tolerable bargain, and that subverting the trade is problematic.
    - 93po 3y ago
      I said nothing of your character. I only commented on the action itself. We are human and we make mistakes, but we're not defined by those mistakes. Advertising is unethical. I would encourage you to start with considering that position, read some opinions on this topic, and spend time considering the harm that advertising causes not only directly on the human, but also the incentives and ecosystems and structures of capitalism that advertising enables and perpetuates that also harms humans. It is possible you simply don't hold the same values as me and many other people. Namely that people should not be harmed, capitalism perpetuates a lot of harm, people have rights to protect themselves from harm, and whether the means justify the ends. I wish you well regardless.
tzs 3y ago
Flyers mailed by local grocery stores regularly let me know when stores I don't normally shop at are having a sale on something I need, which lets me save money. How is that immoral?
- executesorder66 3y ago
  Ads are literal spam. And spam is bad because people are forcing others to look at crap that they never wanted to see in the first place. If you find these flyers genuinely helpful, and you explicitly gave them your consent to send you the flyers, then by definition it is no longer spam, and thus it is not immoral. But if you did not give your consent, then they are spamming you. How are they supposed to know if you want the flyers if you don't explicitly give your consent? Maybe if I mailed you my shit, you'd find it useful, maybe not. But if I just mail it to you every week without your consent, it is the same thing as mailing flyers without your consent.

paulryanrogers 3y ago

Thinking differently makes me a bad person. That's not a very convincing premise.

93po 3y ago
Being thoughtless and pushing thoughtless or poorly examined morals onto others is a harmful action.
- paulryanrogers 3y ago
  By what logic am I being thoughtless and in possession poorly examined morals? Is expressing a different opinion "pushing morals"? So many accusations here. Apparently I'm subhuman, a bad person, and of low moral character. All because I think the exchange of ad impressions for otherwise free access to content is a tolerable bargain, and that subverting the trade is problematic.
  - 93po 3y ago
    I said nothing of your character. I only commented on the action itself. We are human and we make mistakes, but we're not defined by those mistakes. Advertising is unethical. I would encourage you to start with considering that position, read some opinions on this topic, and spend time considering the harm that advertising causes not only directly on the human, but also the incentives and ecosystems and structures of capitalism that advertising enables and perpetuates that also harms humans. It is possible you simply don't hold the same values as me and many other people. Namely that people should not be harmed, capitalism perpetuates a lot of harm, people have rights to protect themselves from harm, and whether the means justify the ends. I wish you well regardless.

tzs 3y ago

Flyers mailed by local grocery stores regularly let me know when stores I don't normally shop at are having a sale on something I need, which lets me save money. How is that immoral?

executesorder66 3y ago
Ads are literal spam. And spam is bad because people are forcing others to look at crap that they never wanted to see in the first place. If you find these flyers genuinely helpful, and you explicitly gave them your consent to send you the flyers, then by definition it is no longer spam, and thus it is not immoral. But if you did not give your consent, then they are spamming you. How are they supposed to know if you want the flyers if you don't explicitly give your consent? Maybe if I mailed you my shit, you'd find it useful, maybe not. But if I just mail it to you every week without your consent, it is the same thing as mailing flyers without your consent.