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Surely the most likely outcome is that Japan becomes increasingly reliant on automation to ensure sufficient resources are available to support the non-working

Surely the most likely outcome is that Japan becomes increasingly reliant on automation to ensure sufficient resources are available to support the non-working population? How well that works out is anyone's guess but there are plenty of opportunities to reduce the need for human labour in the Japanese economy even with current technology, and I would imagine that will become increasingly the case as technology improves and economic realities set in.

UncleOxidant 3y ago
Or they start to open up to the idea of immigration.
- wholien 3y ago
  Temporary and permanent immigration to Japan seems to be increasing in the last few years. On the "influencer" side, you also are seeing more and more people talk about how cheap houses in beautiful parts of Japan are, how easy / difficult it is to buy and live in one of them, etc. Come to think of it, are these covert advertisements by the Japanese government to get more foreign immigration and capital?
  - UncleOxidant 3y ago
    Yeah, I follow a few YouTube channels where they bought (or rented very cheaply) a Japanese farm house in a rural part of the country.
- wizofaus 3y ago
  There's only so many countries that will have a surplus of young workers though, and arguably they're ones with cultures/ethnicities least likely to be readily integrated into Japanese society. And such workers are likely to have better options available as other countries with more of a history of accepting immigrants look to remedy their demographic woes. I say that as a Westerner with an ambition to spend some time living/working in Japan - but AFAIK the only way it would be possible currently is to legally marry my (Japanese) partner, so most likely we'll go elsewhere.
- junofan 3y ago
  There are other options. They could incentivize old people to move to cheaper places. Why should a Japanese person slave away to support a retiree instead of their own family? Why should an immigrant work to support a Japanese retiree instead of their own family?
- wherethoug 3y ago
  Where would they get those immigrants from? It's a high-IQ, high-trust, homogeneous society. They won't get people who can integrate. The most sensible thing would be to promote fertility through incentives, or find other ways to accommodate an aging population.
- HDThoreaun 3y ago
  Doubt it, they're racist and xenophobic. Much more likely that we see massive entitlement programs for families that are able to inch up the birth rate to a level they can accept.

UncleOxidant 3y ago

Or they start to open up to the idea of immigration.

wholien 3y ago
Temporary and permanent immigration to Japan seems to be increasing in the last few years. On the "influencer" side, you also are seeing more and more people talk about how cheap houses in beautiful parts of Japan are, how easy / difficult it is to buy and live in one of them, etc. Come to think of it, are these covert advertisements by the Japanese government to get more foreign immigration and capital?
- UncleOxidant 3y ago
  Yeah, I follow a few YouTube channels where they bought (or rented very cheaply) a Japanese farm house in a rural part of the country.
wizofaus 3y ago
There's only so many countries that will have a surplus of young workers though, and arguably they're ones with cultures/ethnicities least likely to be readily integrated into Japanese society. And such workers are likely to have better options available as other countries with more of a history of accepting immigrants look to remedy their demographic woes. I say that as a Westerner with an ambition to spend some time living/working in Japan - but AFAIK the only way it would be possible currently is to legally marry my (Japanese) partner, so most likely we'll go elsewhere.
junofan 3y ago
There are other options. They could incentivize old people to move to cheaper places. Why should a Japanese person slave away to support a retiree instead of their own family? Why should an immigrant work to support a Japanese retiree instead of their own family?
wherethoug 3y ago
Where would they get those immigrants from? It's a high-IQ, high-trust, homogeneous society. They won't get people who can integrate. The most sensible thing would be to promote fertility through incentives, or find other ways to accommodate an aging population.
HDThoreaun 3y ago
Doubt it, they're racist and xenophobic. Much more likely that we see massive entitlement programs for families that are able to inch up the birth rate to a level they can accept.