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You let them have total media control and censorship and then act surprised when they use it. Canadians, time for change!

root_axis 3y ago
What do you mean by "let them have total media control"?
- happytiger 3y ago
  https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/c11-is-now-law-and-the-internet-is-under-government-control https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/c11-is-now-law-and... I do understand how this related only in a tertiary way. However, the Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission is a hot mess and Canada is headed towards total media control.
  - zht 3y ago
    Brian Lilley, for some context, often writes incendiary posts for Toronto Sun, a tabloid with notoriously low journalistic standards. He himself, who often writes glowing articles about the current provincial government, seems to frequently be privy to otherwise unknown/unreleased details from our provincial government. He is coincidentally in a long term relationship with Ivana Yelich, who works in the current Premier’s office as “ executive director of media relations”
pharrington 3y ago
You're saying Canadians let Facebook have total media control? The blame lies on Mark Zuckerberg. This is a Mark Zuckerberg (or more generally, unfettered capitalism) problem.
- kmeisthax 3y ago
  No, it's an India problem. Insamuch as Facebook or capitalism is even at fault, it's specifically because they're either willing to comply with, or have been duped into complying with, India's attempts at censorship. The fact that BC Sikhs was eventually uncensored would indicate the latter, but India knows that they can try again, because... - Companies like Facebook are big, monopolistic platforms, which mean they have too much content and not enough moderators, so they have a 'shoot first, ask questions later' mentality - India holds some Facebook employees hostage. This is part of their law, you can't run a social media network there without domestic employees, and those employees effectively become agents of India with stiff penalties for noncompliance. The fault Facebook and other capitalists have is not immediately NOPEing out of the Indian market. They left themselves open to being used as a censorship tool by powerful-enough governments.
  - pharrington 3y ago
    Yeah, its both an India (increasingly authoritarian government) AND Facebook (unfettered capitalist) problem.
    - freedomben 3y ago
      Could you expand a big on why Facebook is unfettered capitalist? For a while there the US president administration was communicating directly with facebook execs "flagging" posts that they wanted taken down, and demanding answers why certain posts were still up. That doesn't sound unfettered to me

root_axis 3y ago

What do you mean by "let them have total media control"?

happytiger 3y ago
https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/c11-is-now-law-and-the-internet-is-under-government-control https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/c11-is-now-law-and... I do understand how this related only in a tertiary way. However, the Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission is a hot mess and Canada is headed towards total media control.
- zht 3y ago
  Brian Lilley, for some context, often writes incendiary posts for Toronto Sun, a tabloid with notoriously low journalistic standards. He himself, who often writes glowing articles about the current provincial government, seems to frequently be privy to otherwise unknown/unreleased details from our provincial government. He is coincidentally in a long term relationship with Ivana Yelich, who works in the current Premier’s office as “ executive director of media relations”

pharrington 3y ago

You're saying Canadians let Facebook have total media control? The blame lies on Mark Zuckerberg. This is a Mark Zuckerberg (or more generally, unfettered capitalism) problem.

kmeisthax 3y ago
No, it's an India problem. Insamuch as Facebook or capitalism is even at fault, it's specifically because they're either willing to comply with, or have been duped into complying with, India's attempts at censorship. The fact that BC Sikhs was eventually uncensored would indicate the latter, but India knows that they can try again, because... - Companies like Facebook are big, monopolistic platforms, which mean they have too much content and not enough moderators, so they have a 'shoot first, ask questions later' mentality - India holds some Facebook employees hostage. This is part of their law, you can't run a social media network there without domestic employees, and those employees effectively become agents of India with stiff penalties for noncompliance. The fault Facebook and other capitalists have is not immediately NOPEing out of the Indian market. They left themselves open to being used as a censorship tool by powerful-enough governments.
- pharrington 3y ago
  Yeah, its both an India (increasingly authoritarian government) AND Facebook (unfettered capitalist) problem.
  - freedomben 3y ago
    Could you expand a big on why Facebook is unfettered capitalist? For a while there the US president administration was communicating directly with facebook execs "flagging" posts that they wanted taken down, and demanding answers why certain posts were still up. That doesn't sound unfettered to me