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You can try to push that as a marketing strategy, but I would say the share of the market that looks for smartphones specifically because they are less of a tar

You can try to push that as a marketing strategy, but I would say the share of the market that looks for smartphones specifically because they are less of a target for theft is minuscule, the reason being because nobody shop for phones thinking about getting robbed. They shop mainly guided by ecosystem (android Vs ios) brand perception (how good their aftersales support is), budget and cost-effectiveness. In this sense, device lockdown is clearly a anti-consumer practice, not pro-consumer.

spinningarrow 3y ago
> nobody shop for phones thinking about getting robbed I don’t know the safety situation of where you live but I literally had this conversation with friends two weeks ago where we loved the idea that the iPhone is a better purchase because it’s less prone to theft (because of the reasons GP mentioned).
- gchamonlive 3y ago
  Enough for non-anecdotal people to shift their entire ecosystem to a diffent brand? People in general won't just switch from Android to iPhone because "filthy criminals are after my brand new phone for parts". If apple wasn't going to lock their parts and Samsung would, people would still keep buying iPhones.
- layer8 3y ago
  If iPhones didn’t have that protection, but Android phones did, would you and your friends switch to Android and love the idea that Android phones are the better purchase?
Pet_Ant 3y ago
You can do a search and you'll find many articles and comments about how back in the day people were warned not to wear the white iPod ear buds as not to be a target for thefts. > West Midlands police have issued a stark warning to iPod users: ditch the white headphones or pay the price. https://www.theregister.com/2004/03/30/ipod_this_seasons_musthave/ https://www.theregister.com/2004/03/30/ipod_this_seasons_mus... Apple could be very well front-running this and trying to prevent it before it becomes a problem. This is clearly a possibility.
- gchamonlive 3y ago
  Earpods and phone parts in this context are fundamentally different because earpods are a peripheral whereas cameras, batteries and such are components for an embedded system. I can't see how they apply to the discussion.
  - Pet_Ant 3y ago
    ...people weren't stealing ear pods the were stealing iPods. The theft of Apple products is a legitimate saftey concern. By preventing a market for stolen iPhones (ie to be cannibalised for parts) they are increasing the safety of their users.

spinningarrow 3y ago

> nobody shop for phones thinking about getting robbed I don’t know the safety situation of where you live but I literally had this conversation with friends two weeks ago where we loved the idea that the iPhone is a better purchase because it’s less prone to theft (because of the reasons GP mentioned).

gchamonlive 3y ago
Enough for non-anecdotal people to shift their entire ecosystem to a diffent brand? People in general won't just switch from Android to iPhone because "filthy criminals are after my brand new phone for parts". If apple wasn't going to lock their parts and Samsung would, people would still keep buying iPhones.
layer8 3y ago
If iPhones didn’t have that protection, but Android phones did, would you and your friends switch to Android and love the idea that Android phones are the better purchase?

Pet_Ant 3y ago

You can do a search and you'll find many articles and comments about how back in the day people were warned not to wear the white iPod ear buds as not to be a target for thefts. > West Midlands police have issued a stark warning to iPod users: ditch the white headphones or pay the price. https://www.theregister.com/2004/03/30/ipod_this_seasons_musthave/ https://www.theregister.com/2004/03/30/ipod_this_seasons_mus... Apple could be very well front-running this and trying to prevent it before it becomes a problem. This is clearly a possibility.

gchamonlive 3y ago
Earpods and phone parts in this context are fundamentally different because earpods are a peripheral whereas cameras, batteries and such are components for an embedded system. I can't see how they apply to the discussion.
- Pet_Ant 3y ago
  ...people weren't stealing ear pods the were stealing iPods. The theft of Apple products is a legitimate saftey concern. By preventing a market for stolen iPhones (ie to be cannibalised for parts) they are increasing the safety of their users.