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While anti-consumerist practices such as this authentication mechanism sometimes accidentally protect the consumer, it is not the reason why companies do it. If
by toxik 3y ago
While anti-consumerist practices such as this authentication mechanism sometimes accidentally protect the consumer, it is not the reason why companies do it. If it were, they would also allow you to say “yes this replacement is desired.” Similarly, if it was about security and preventing backdoored parts, they could allow you to authorize the replacement.
But no, it is of course about money grabbing, and then the consumer is the opponent.
- teaearlgraycold 3y agoYes. I could see a better system being made. Perhaps alerting you that the screen was marked as stolen and refusing to have it operate. Hell, for screens in particular you could display a “please return to <original owner>” message and nothing else.
- circuit10 3y agoI think this is being downvoted as it initially reads as a snarky way to say "the way it works now is fine", but reading closer I think they are saying it should only happen when the screen is marked as stolen which seems reasonable
- Brian_K_White 3y agoThis. The proof is in the actions. No need to try to defend them based on unsupportable benefit of the doubt possibilities. If their motivations were actually for the users benefit, then the user would have these options and be benefitting.
- misnome 3y ago> If it were, they would also allow you to say “yes this replacement is desired.” How does that not completely bypass any of the reasons for wanting to do this? And it is “anti-consumerist” to make my property a less desirable target for theft?
- picture 3y ago> How does that not completely bypass any of the reasons for wanting to do this? Do it from your iCloud account. Presumably thieves will not hold you at gun point to log in to iCloud and allow pairing of your phone's components to a ready recipient iPhone
- w0m 3y agoThis. If Apple was honest, they'd have an 'unlock from account' security, not an 'accept new to account' pairing.
- Clamchop 3y agoTruly, they could put up any roadblock---a time delay, requiring a phone call, MFA up one side and down the other---and it would be a much better look for them. I don't buy the anti-theft angle that can only be solved by buying a brand-new genuine part direct from Apple.
- acters 3y agoI dont buy the anti theft angle either. People's phones still end up stolen, and they are still contacted by the thieves to remove the icloud account. ICloud is a good enough feature to prevent theft, and having authorized repair options in it is great. So, that notion is already pretty bad. If someone replaces the motherboard with a blank iPhone(no iCloud attached), then a check of parts that are serialized to an iCloud account should be implemented to prevent harvesting parts from a locked iPhone. There are better consumer friendly methods that Apple simply ignores.
- falsenapkin 3y agoSuch an ignore button would allow theft to continue and would allow users to make poor security decisions. I agree that something needs to happen to enable easier or maybe more privacy focused 3rd party repairs but I also appreciate my device being less of a target.
- tumult 3y agoWhat? How is someone who snatched your phone out of your hand and ran away going to know your password and authentication information needed to authorize a parts replacement?
- sbuk 3y agoWhat is your stance on government backdoors in encryption?
- thinkling 3y agoThey're going to snatch your phone, break it up into parts, and install those into other people's phones, and those people will happily approve the new part.
- jiminymcmoogley 3y agoapprove them on your behalf? theyd still be paired to your device
- falsenapkin 3y agoMy comment is in response to your “yes this replacement is desired.” button in a world where parts can be harvested from a phone and used in a different one. My understanding of what you mean is if phone A were stolen and parts removed from it and installed in phone B then phone B would get the “yes this replacement is desired.” button instead of whatever is in place now. My feeling is this button would be no different from just not having a button at all. The user of phone B will almost never care what that prompt says and will just click through, they're certainly not going to consider the parts were stolen from phone A.
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- junofan 3y agoCan’t Apple grab money by raising prices? Why do they need to do this?
- Gibbon1 3y agoThe solution for a phone is put a vin on the display and other valuable parts and upload those to the carrier/manufacturer. Imagine how happy someone would be if they had their display replaced with a stolen one and next thing they know their phone is both bricked and of no value even for parts.