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That was an overstatement, as someone who currently holds and knows many people with clearances. By the way, do you think a security clearance should be revoke

That was an overstatement, as someone who currently holds and knows many people with clearances. By the way, do you think a security clearance should be revoked for consuming marijuana?

sroussey 3y ago
Should a security clearance be revoked for consuming marijuana, ketamine, cocaine, meth? Where do you draw the line?
- DiggyJohnson 3y ago
  Marijuana. Same way its not revoked for alcohol unless you are dependent or abuse it.
  - sroussey 3y ago
    One would think it would refer to federal law instead of personal ideas or local customs (what if a city said all of them were legal—could you do it then?).
    - DiggyJohnson 3y ago
      Well I can tell you that most people wouldn’t have their security clearance revoked for using marijuana, instead likely rebuked or made to agree to abstain in the future. It would be more serious if illegally purchasing or distributing, of course. Would you be making this argument if it was anyone else? Since there’s no case of drug decriminalization or other substances in the USA, I don’t think this is particularly relevant. There’s a reason people are up in arms about MJ scheduling alongside these other substances. Additionally, I know this might sound very general, but the security clearance process is extremely subjective. There is no published set of circumstances for what gets a clearance denied or revoked and what simply gets addressed and mitigated. And I think that’s a good thing. In this case, I don’t think Elon’s partaking in any way indicates, jeopardizes or threatens his loyalty to the US, the likelihood that he could be blackmailed, or his ability to keep secure data secure. Would you be making the same argument if it wasn’t Elon, but a close friend from school that hit a doobie on his buddy’s local team’s podcast? Sorry for the ramble, but the clearance process is one I’m very familiar with, and I just see a lot of assumptions and misunderstandings in these threads.
      - sroussey 3y ago
        I was tested for marijuana just to get a low job at a defense contractor.

That was an overstatement, as someone who currently holds and knows many people with clearances. By the way, do you think a security clearance should be revoked for consuming marijuana?

sroussey 3y ago

Should a security clearance be revoked for consuming marijuana, ketamine, cocaine, meth? Where do you draw the line?

DiggyJohnson 3y ago
Marijuana. Same way its not revoked for alcohol unless you are dependent or abuse it.
- sroussey 3y ago
  One would think it would refer to federal law instead of personal ideas or local customs (what if a city said all of them were legal—could you do it then?).
  - DiggyJohnson 3y ago
    Well I can tell you that most people wouldn’t have their security clearance revoked for using marijuana, instead likely rebuked or made to agree to abstain in the future. It would be more serious if illegally purchasing or distributing, of course. Would you be making this argument if it was anyone else? Since there’s no case of drug decriminalization or other substances in the USA, I don’t think this is particularly relevant. There’s a reason people are up in arms about MJ scheduling alongside these other substances. Additionally, I know this might sound very general, but the security clearance process is extremely subjective. There is no published set of circumstances for what gets a clearance denied or revoked and what simply gets addressed and mitigated. And I think that’s a good thing. In this case, I don’t think Elon’s partaking in any way indicates, jeopardizes or threatens his loyalty to the US, the likelihood that he could be blackmailed, or his ability to keep secure data secure. Would you be making the same argument if it wasn’t Elon, but a close friend from school that hit a doobie on his buddy’s local team’s podcast? Sorry for the ramble, but the clearance process is one I’m very familiar with, and I just see a lot of assumptions and misunderstandings in these threads.
    - sroussey 3y ago
      I was tested for marijuana just to get a low job at a defense contractor.