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You are correct, he is a bit of a crackpot. A crackpot who ran in the 2016 presidential race to get money out of politics. A crackpot who, in 2014, created th

You are correct, he is a bit of a crackpot. A crackpot who ran in the 2016 presidential race to get money out of politics. A crackpot who, in 2014, created the Mayday PAC to fund and push candidates that support campaign finance reform. A crackpot who, in 2011, published a book entitled Republic, Lost: How Money Corrupts Congress—and a Plan to Stop It Yeah, he's just a dude out there theorizing how we're going to live together on the internet.

brodouevencode 3y ago
Along with the CC, this is IMO Lessig's greatest efforts.
Zaskoda 3y ago
I bought a shirt from his presidential campaign and frequently wear it when traveling through airports. Not once has anyone recognized it and I think that's a shame.
- jackmoore 3y ago
  I think he correctly diagnosed that getting money out of politics is foundational to being able to make any sort of other lasting progress. I don't know why Democrat voters don't see that as the obvious direction that needs to be pursued to the exclusion of all else.
  - dragonwriter 3y ago
    > I think he correctly diagnosed that getting money out of politics is foundational to being able to make any sort of other lasting progress. No, its intermediary. Electoral reform (which doesn't require federal Constitutional reform and can be done by voter initiative in many states) foundational, because the breadth and depth of support by politicians for Cobstitutional reform necessary to deal with money in Congress is intractable otherwise. > I don't know why Democrat voters don't see that as the obvious direction that needs to be pursued to the exclusion of all else. Because enough Democratic voters understand why it is politically intractable currently (even if they don't always understand or live in states where they can do much about the steps for changing that), and because “to the exclusion of all else" is dumb, as there are lots of less intractable important problems and lots of irremediable harms that will be inflicted if other issues are neglected in a quixotic effort at finance reform.
    - Zaskoda 3y ago
      Believing something is intractable is the first step in it becoming intractable. Meanwhile, campaign finance reform is a prerequisite to actually solving any of those "less intractable" problems that never ever get solved because those issues are more financially valuable to the Democratic party leaders when left unresolved. Example: the right to choose an abortion could have been codified into law for decades, but the risk of losing the right to an abortion was more valuable to Democratic leadership. Source: Andrew Yang
      - dragonwriter 3y ago
        > Believing something is intractable is the first step in it becoming intractable. Not understanding that and why a thing is temporarily intractable is the first step in making it permanently intractable. > Example: the right to choose an abortion could have been codified into law for decades, but the risk of losing the right to an abortion was more valuable to Democratic leadership. Source: Andrew Yang Andrew Yang is an idiot and/or liar on politics. Codifying the right ti abortion is a feelgood measure some Democrats wave around, but its never been a serious priority because it only slightly improves things while the Constitutional right itself stands (by providing wehatever additional recourse or sanction is in the statute), but fails as soon as the Constitutional right fails, because the only plausible argument for a federal power to protect the right to abortion is the enforcement clause of the 14th Amendment, which fails as soon as abortion is not within the scope of 14th Amendment rights already Constitutionally protected against state encroachment. Its not even a little bit of protection against a Supreme Court that would strike down abortion as a Constitutional right.
dragonwriter 3y ago
> A crackpot who ran in the 2016 presidential race to get money out of politics. I mean, that's one of the least effective means available of working toward that goal (even for someone with the combination of skills and background to be a viable candidate), so I’m not sure why you'd raise it as if it undermined the crackpot claim.
- zehaeva 3y ago
  Oh, sorry, my intent wasn't to claim he's not really a crackpot, just the the grandparent was making the claim that the reason why Lessig is a crackpot is because Lessig can not see the real issue here, which is campaign finance reform. Anyone who has been slightly paying attention to American politics in the last decade or so would know that Lessig, of all people, is deeply aware of this issue. Lessig has been fighting and trying to make the issue of money in politics a thing for quite a long while. If one has been actually following Lessig's career they'd know that Lessig has taken to the issue of money in politics because of his first great crusade, that of fixing Copyright for all net-denizens, and honestly the world. I personally believe Lessig to be a smart, driven, and naive, man who has been fighting for the right things, even if no one will actually listen to him and take action on his suggestions.

brodouevencode 3y ago

Along with the CC, this is IMO Lessig's greatest efforts.

Zaskoda 3y ago

I bought a shirt from his presidential campaign and frequently wear it when traveling through airports. Not once has anyone recognized it and I think that's a shame.

jackmoore 3y ago
I think he correctly diagnosed that getting money out of politics is foundational to being able to make any sort of other lasting progress. I don't know why Democrat voters don't see that as the obvious direction that needs to be pursued to the exclusion of all else.
- dragonwriter 3y ago
  > I think he correctly diagnosed that getting money out of politics is foundational to being able to make any sort of other lasting progress. No, its intermediary. Electoral reform (which doesn't require federal Constitutional reform and can be done by voter initiative in many states) foundational, because the breadth and depth of support by politicians for Cobstitutional reform necessary to deal with money in Congress is intractable otherwise. > I don't know why Democrat voters don't see that as the obvious direction that needs to be pursued to the exclusion of all else. Because enough Democratic voters understand why it is politically intractable currently (even if they don't always understand or live in states where they can do much about the steps for changing that), and because “to the exclusion of all else" is dumb, as there are lots of less intractable important problems and lots of irremediable harms that will be inflicted if other issues are neglected in a quixotic effort at finance reform.
  - Zaskoda 3y ago
    Believing something is intractable is the first step in it becoming intractable. Meanwhile, campaign finance reform is a prerequisite to actually solving any of those "less intractable" problems that never ever get solved because those issues are more financially valuable to the Democratic party leaders when left unresolved. Example: the right to choose an abortion could have been codified into law for decades, but the risk of losing the right to an abortion was more valuable to Democratic leadership. Source: Andrew Yang
    - dragonwriter 3y ago
      > Believing something is intractable is the first step in it becoming intractable. Not understanding that and why a thing is temporarily intractable is the first step in making it permanently intractable. > Example: the right to choose an abortion could have been codified into law for decades, but the risk of losing the right to an abortion was more valuable to Democratic leadership. Source: Andrew Yang Andrew Yang is an idiot and/or liar on politics. Codifying the right ti abortion is a feelgood measure some Democrats wave around, but its never been a serious priority because it only slightly improves things while the Constitutional right itself stands (by providing wehatever additional recourse or sanction is in the statute), but fails as soon as the Constitutional right fails, because the only plausible argument for a federal power to protect the right to abortion is the enforcement clause of the 14th Amendment, which fails as soon as abortion is not within the scope of 14th Amendment rights already Constitutionally protected against state encroachment. Its not even a little bit of protection against a Supreme Court that would strike down abortion as a Constitutional right.

dragonwriter 3y ago

> A crackpot who ran in the 2016 presidential race to get money out of politics. I mean, that's one of the least effective means available of working toward that goal (even for someone with the combination of skills and background to be a viable candidate), so I’m not sure why you'd raise it as if it undermined the crackpot claim.

zehaeva 3y ago
Oh, sorry, my intent wasn't to claim he's not really a crackpot, just the the grandparent was making the claim that the reason why Lessig is a crackpot is because Lessig can not see the real issue here, which is campaign finance reform. Anyone who has been slightly paying attention to American politics in the last decade or so would know that Lessig, of all people, is deeply aware of this issue. Lessig has been fighting and trying to make the issue of money in politics a thing for quite a long while. If one has been actually following Lessig's career they'd know that Lessig has taken to the issue of money in politics because of his first great crusade, that of fixing Copyright for all net-denizens, and honestly the world. I personally believe Lessig to be a smart, driven, and naive, man who has been fighting for the right things, even if no one will actually listen to him and take action on his suggestions.