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Nintendo more evil than Microsoft. What the fuck are you talking about? As if couple DMCAs are even a blip in the ocean that is Microsoft's evilness.

LoveMortuus 3y ago
I meant from a point of view of a normal person. At least that has been my experience. Microsoft hasn't done anything that made me angry enough to remember in quite a while, multiple years. The last thing that's on my mind that Microsoft did that was negatively received was Windows 8 and that was quite a while ago. Could just be my ignorance. But I did submit the original comment knowing that it'll get downvoted to oblivion, so it's okay. I still welcome Microsoft's acquisition of Nintendo.
- danaris 3y ago
  That is because Nintendo's evilness is a drop of squid ink that can be easily seen before it dissipates into the vastness of the water. Microsoft's evilness is the ocean that you swim in. You do not see it because it just looks like The Way Things Have Always Been to you. The entire PC ecosystem—indeed, the entire tech world—is worse because of Microsoft's monopolistic behavior in the 1990s. We are still stuck with, at best, a desktop platform triopoly (is that a word?), and the big "Microsoft vs Apple" paradigm contributed greatly, I would argue, to the mindset that led to us having a mobile OS duopoly today. If not for Microsoft actively, aggressively, and, above all, illegally throwing their weight around in the 1990s to make sure they were the only option for most people, we could very easily have had a half-dozen different OSes with open standards governing interoperability between them.
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- latexr 3y ago
  This is like saying a guy who kicked a dog is more evil than the one who keeps spilling harmful chemicals into the town’s drinking water, because you saw the former but had no knowledge of the latter. Then hoping the polluter hires the dog kicker “to stop them from behaving as evil as they do”. “The point of view of a normal person” is not a good barometer of harm to society. Companies spend truckloads of money on PR and hiding their harms from the general public. We should reward the ones who do good, not the ones who are skilful at hiding they’re harmful.
- nextlevelwizard 3y ago
  >The last thing that's on my mind that Microsoft did that was negatively received was Windows 8 How about everything around Windows 11? All the TPM stuff? How about training their AI model on _private_ github code? What about removing ability to purchase office products since subscriptions make more money? What has Nintendo done? DMCAd some fan projects that used their IP and assets and had few Youtube videos taken down? Sure that seems about the same. On other topic I saw today on my way to work someone throw trash out their car window, what a dick! At least <insert your (least) favorite dictator> did it years ago!

LoveMortuus 3y ago

I meant from a point of view of a normal person. At least that has been my experience. Microsoft hasn't done anything that made me angry enough to remember in quite a while, multiple years. The last thing that's on my mind that Microsoft did that was negatively received was Windows 8 and that was quite a while ago. Could just be my ignorance. But I did submit the original comment knowing that it'll get downvoted to oblivion, so it's okay. I still welcome Microsoft's acquisition of Nintendo.

danaris 3y ago
That is because Nintendo's evilness is a drop of squid ink that can be easily seen before it dissipates into the vastness of the water. Microsoft's evilness is the ocean that you swim in. You do not see it because it just looks like The Way Things Have Always Been to you. The entire PC ecosystem—indeed, the entire tech world—is worse because of Microsoft's monopolistic behavior in the 1990s. We are still stuck with, at best, a desktop platform triopoly (is that a word?), and the big "Microsoft vs Apple" paradigm contributed greatly, I would argue, to the mindset that led to us having a mobile OS duopoly today. If not for Microsoft actively, aggressively, and, above all, illegally throwing their weight around in the 1990s to make sure they were the only option for most people, we could very easily have had a half-dozen different OSes with open standards governing interoperability between them.
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latexr 3y ago
This is like saying a guy who kicked a dog is more evil than the one who keeps spilling harmful chemicals into the town’s drinking water, because you saw the former but had no knowledge of the latter. Then hoping the polluter hires the dog kicker “to stop them from behaving as evil as they do”. “The point of view of a normal person” is not a good barometer of harm to society. Companies spend truckloads of money on PR and hiding their harms from the general public. We should reward the ones who do good, not the ones who are skilful at hiding they’re harmful.
nextlevelwizard 3y ago
>The last thing that's on my mind that Microsoft did that was negatively received was Windows 8 How about everything around Windows 11? All the TPM stuff? How about training their AI model on _private_ github code? What about removing ability to purchase office products since subscriptions make more money? What has Nintendo done? DMCAd some fan projects that used their IP and assets and had few Youtube videos taken down? Sure that seems about the same. On other topic I saw today on my way to work someone throw trash out their car window, what a dick! At least <insert your (least) favorite dictator> did it years ago!